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To: mlo; thecodont
There's a whole birther mythology about this issue that includes a number of elements. These elements are almost entirely false. Among them are the claims that Hawaii only confirmed they have "A" birth certificate, and that anyone born outside Hawaii can get one.

Wow, you managed to cram four fallacies into three sentences. First and second are the genetic fallacy and ad hominem: "birther". Then there is the fallacy of petitio principii: "mythology". Finally, the fallacy of accent: "anyone born outside Hawaii can get one".
140 posted on 01/24/2009 7:15:41 AM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
Anytime one of these "Jerkers" jumps into their "Birthers" comments regarding Rules of Law, simply print the relevant Law and tell them to read it.

Case in point:

[§338-17.8] Certificates for children born out of State. (a) Upon application of an adult or the legal parents of a minor child, the director of health shall issue a birth certificate for such adult or minor, provided that proof has been submitted to the director of health that the legal parents of such individual while living without the Territory or State of Hawaii had declared the Territory or State of Hawaii as their legal residence for at least one year immediately preceding the birth or adoption of such child.

(b) Proof of legal residency shall be submitted to the director of health in any manner that the director shall deem appropriate. The director of health may also adopt any rules pursuant to chapter 91 that he or she may deem necessary or proper to prevent fraudulent applications for birth certificates and to require any further information or proof of events necessary for completion of a birth certificate.

(c) The fee for each application for registration shall be established by rule adopted pursuant to chapter 91. [L 1982, c 182, §1]

144 posted on 01/24/2009 9:13:27 AM PST by Polarik ("A forgery created to prove a claim repudiates that claim")
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To: aruanan
"Wow, you managed to cram four fallacies into three sentences. First and second are the genetic fallacy and ad hominem: "birther". Then there is the fallacy of petitio principii: "mythology". Finally, the fallacy of accent: "anyone born outside Hawaii can get one"."

They aren't fallacies because you disagree with them.

That there is a "birther mythology" is a fact. The term "birther" is not an ad hominem. As for the "anyone born outside Hawaii", I'm repeating a birther claim. Take it up with them.

152 posted on 01/24/2009 10:05:46 AM PST by mlo
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