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Lt. Starbuck … Lost In Castration.
Big Hollywood ^ | January 19, 2009 | Dirk Benedict

Posted on 01/20/2009 8:30:14 AM PST by EveningStar

Once upon a time, in what used to be a far away land called Hollywood (but is now a state of mind and everywhere), a young actor was handed a script and asked to bring to life a character called Starbuck. I am that actor. The script was called “Battlestar Galactica.”

Fortunately, I was young, my imagination fertile and adrenal glands strong, because bringing Starbuck to life was over the dead imaginations of a lot of Network Executives...

Witness the “re-imagined” “Battlestar Galactica,” bleak, miserable, despairing, angry and confused. Which is to say, it reflects in microcosm the complete change in the politics and morality of today’s world, as opposed to the world of yesterday. The world of Lorne Greene (Adama), Fred Astaire (Starbuck’s Poppa) and Dirk Benedict (Starbuck). I would guess Lorne is glad he’s in that Big Bonanza in the sky and well out of it. Starbuck, alas, has not been so lucky. He’s not been left to pass quietly into that trivial world of cancelled TV characters...

(Excerpt) Read more at bighollywood.breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: battlestargalactica; bighollywood; dirkbenedict; feminism; hollywood; liberalism; marenjensen; starbuck
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To: Oztrich Boy
Could the Originals have been gayer? Umm... WTH are you talking about?

Are you really going to judge actors in costume from a 30-year-old TV show by today's fashion standards?

61 posted on 01/20/2009 9:15:57 AM PST by TChris (So many useful idiots...)
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To: FreeAtlanta

They did that 12 years ago. It was called Space Above and Beyond. One show featured an early appearance by
R.Lee Ermy.

While it had an weaker cast and writing, it was mostly just way ahead of its time and flopped. Most said they couldn’t follow the plot premise.


62 posted on 01/20/2009 9:16:14 AM PST by Wiseghy ("You want to break this army? Then break your word to it.")
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To: GOPsterinMA

“I was a kid when the original was on - I LOVED it. The new BSG sucks. Granted, there are hot women on the new version, no doubt, but that’s the only thing the new has over the old.

Just my opinion, of course.”

Well, the 1970s version did have the gorgeous Maren Jensen and Jane Seymour(both ladies I adored) in their prime. Never watched the new one. Once I heard how PC it would be I had no desire to waste my time on it.

Good article by Dirk Benedict. I especially liked this quote:

‘“Re-imagining”, they call it. “Un-imagining” is more accurate. To take what once was and twist it into what never was intended. So that a television show based on hope, spiritual faith and family is un-imagined and regurgitated as a show of despair, sexual violence and family dysfunction. To better reflect the times of ambiguous morality in which we live, one would assume. A show in which the aliens (Cylons) are justified in their desire to destroy human civilization, one would assume. Indeed, let us not say who the good guys are and who the bad are. That is being “judgmental,” taking sides, and that kind of (simplistic) thinking went out with Margaret Thatcher and Ronald Reagan and Kathryn Hepburn and John Wayne and, well, the original “Battlestar Galactica.”’

I’ll take the “judgmental” BG over the PC BG any day.


63 posted on 01/20/2009 9:18:02 AM PST by ReformationFan
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To: EveningStar

I’m kind of intrigued by the plot but Dirk is right, its dark, moody and depressing. And for what its worth, everybody looks sweaty and stinky, especially the women.


64 posted on 01/20/2009 9:18:54 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (My grandpa started walking five miles a day when he was 60..Now we don't know where he is.)
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To: EveningStar
One thing is certain. In the new un-imagined, re-imagined world of “Battlestar Galactica” everything is female driven. The male characters, from Adama on down, are confused, weak and wracked with indecision, while the female characters are decisive, bold, angry as hell, puffing cigars (gasp!) and not about to take it any more.

I guess he hasn't been watching the show. Adama has kept the fleet going by sheer force of will. Apollo has grown into a true leader. Colonel Tigh, despite all of his faults, has saved the fleet numerous times. Halo survived, alone, on Caprica for months and is sort of the moral voice for the characters. Anders was a sports star who rallied and saved hundreds of survivors of nuclear holocaust long enough to be rescued by the fleet. And so on.

65 posted on 01/20/2009 9:22:37 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: Le Chien Rouge
I loved the old series too, in spite of the problems it had.

In addition to the three you mentioned, don't forget Anne Lockhart - Sheba of Silver Spar Squadron. Cain's daughter if I remember right. A great Lloyd Bridges role to me.


66 posted on 01/20/2009 9:22:47 AM PST by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: OCCASparky

Whats up with Dee? Any chick I would want to start the human race with it would be her.


67 posted on 01/20/2009 9:23:27 AM PST by junta (Not even respectable mainstream conservatives can save liberalism.)
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To: EveningStar
LOL! Excellence article. There is no masculinity anymore. Have you noticed that the females in movies now days are taller than the males?

This looks like the new "Republican Feminist Party"!

68 posted on 01/20/2009 9:24:13 AM PST by donna (Synonyms: Feminism, Communism, Fascism, Socialism)
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To: EveningStar

I thought the original BSG was a whole lotta schlock... The present version is darker, but well done. I couldn’t care if Starbuck and Boomer were women.


69 posted on 01/20/2009 9:24:24 AM PST by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll)
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To: ReformationFan

I agree with everything you wrote. I wonder what Maren is up to these days?

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0421596/

Nothing since 1981. Oh well - good for her. Probably living a clean life outside of the Hollywood drivel.


70 posted on 01/20/2009 9:26:40 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (Obama/Biden...change you can laugh at!)
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To: EveningStar
When they decided to be politically correct and "re-imagine" Starbuck and Boomer into women, I immediately wrote them off.

Starbuck isn't a very politically correct characters. She's self-destructive, self-absorbed, promiscuous and a drunk.

The Boomer in this show needed to be female to make her storyline work.

The new BSG added significant female characters for legitimate story-telling reasons, not political correctness. It's one of the least polically correct shows on television (witness the abortion episode, for example).

71 posted on 01/20/2009 9:27:22 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: MoreGovLess

“the series is excellent.”

I have made at least 4 honest attempts to watch this show. I simply cannot make it through a whole episode. Boring Boring Boring! Talk Talk talk. NOTHING EVER HAPPENS! It is quite simply, UNWATCHABLE.


72 posted on 01/20/2009 9:27:42 AM PST by Hacklehead (Liberalism is the art of taking what works, breaking it, and then blaming conservatives.)
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To: donna

Katee S. annoys me for some reason. The hideous tattoos are hard to look at.


73 posted on 01/20/2009 9:30:35 AM PST by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair! Star Wreck In The Pirkinning......)
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To: martin_fierro
Just how does the "Not a Mangled Genital Ping List" work? I suspect it's a pretty low volume list, unless you add your own imaginative posts to threads that could be enlivened by stories of mangled genitals...such as this one...Applause for Biden interrupts Catholic church service

In which case- sign me up!!

74 posted on 01/20/2009 9:30:55 AM PST by Dutchgirl ("Every Socialist is a disguised dictator." Ludwig Von Mises)
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To: EveningStar

It wasn’t politically correct, it was simply recognizing change, and getting a better mix for character interaction. In the intervening years women have taken much more frontline duties in the military including combat pilot, had they kept the old show’s mix of all the pilots being guys and women all minding the store it would have been out of touch with the modern world.


75 posted on 01/20/2009 9:33:40 AM PST by dilvish
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To: freedumb2003

You have to look at Jerry Ryan in a different light today. The transcript from her divorce proceedings with Jack Ryan is partially responsible for torpeedoing his Senate bid.

So, 7of9 is partially to blame for Obama being in the White House.


76 posted on 01/20/2009 9:33:48 AM PST by Citizen Blade ("A Conservative Government is an organized hypocrisy" -Benjamin Disraeli)
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To: GOPsterinMA
The original BSG was a kids' show. The new series is an adult (and by that I mean for grown-ups, not porn) sci-fi drama series that is well-written, well-produced, well-acted, and with incredible effects. Oh yeah, and Starbuck, aka Katee Sackhof, is hotter than all get-out!

Then again, so are all of the female cast members...I'd rather have Laura Roslin as our president than Obamanation!

But I digress. the original BSG started with a great story line that went nowhere. The current series has taken that great beginning and has turned it into a compelling series. Granted, it has to end some time, but it will be a cliffhanger until the very end, I have no doubt.

Yeah, Dirk Benedict did a great job portraying a swashbuckling, swaggering comic book version of a fighter jock in the original series. But comparing the two series, as well as the two Starbucks, is apples and oranges. This new series is the best fiction show TV, now that Jericho has gone away.

Yeah, I'm a fan. Katee, call me!

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

77 posted on 01/20/2009 9:33:48 AM PST by wku man (Who says conservatives don't rock? Go to www.myspace.com/rockfromtheright)
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To: junta
The first two seasons of BSG 2.0 were great. Then it went weird, liberal and spiritual. The politics of the Hollywood types caused it to jump shark badly and the Starbuck character jumped it the worst of all.

After the first episode of the fourth season I should note that every female character with the exception of a little girl and commander Cain has attempted or succeeded in committing suicide. Some of them several times (The Cylons come back but its the thought that counts). And Cain just stood their while her lesbo girlfriend blew her brains out. The men are too wimpy (Apollo, Gaeta, the Chief), drunk (Tigh, Adama) or confused (Baltar, Zarek, Agathon) to take such definitive action.
78 posted on 01/20/2009 9:38:05 AM PST by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: EveningStar
Bleak. That is the word.

I saw the opening eps and was impressed, but more by the budget and the nice hardware. As the series moved on, I lost all interest, and this article capsulises it perfectly as to why.

The old series Cylons were unstoppable evil. You couldn't reason with them, because their reasons for wanting us dead were their own. The series was an outgrowth of SovUnion paranoia, even the KGB complained so. But it was a series that said, "even at the worst, we will survive, we will overcome, we will win."

When I saw the ads that it would be back, I thought "Brilliant! The Cylons as Muslims! They cannot be reaonsed with, they cannot be understood...they must be stopped." And then I found out that, like TODAY's Hollywoood wants to preach, bad is good, good is bad, and we are the REAL monsters. Sad.

79 posted on 01/20/2009 9:39:11 AM PST by 50sDad (WARNING: This thread may result in several billion posts.)
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To: Wiseghy
Even my non-scifi wife likes it, and it is the only show we regularly watch together.

Same here, which, frankly, worries me! My wife wathes drivel drama, or murder mystery as she'd put it. I watch science and engineering. Somehow we've met in the middle at BSG. BSG is the closest thing to a soap opera I've ever been able to stomach. Again, something to worry about. :(

80 posted on 01/20/2009 9:39:33 AM PST by MarineBrat (The New York Times is a Communist Kamikaze.)
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