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Our First FReeper Book Club: Atlas Shrugged
A Publius Essay | 15 January 2009 | Publius

Posted on 01/15/2009 10:32:08 AM PST by Publius

Over the past few weeks, Ayn Rand’s classic, Atlas Shrugged, has been mentioned in articles in the Wall Street Journal and among conservative and libertarian bloggers. Two questions are being debated by those who have read the book.

  1. Are we living in a time line that follows the book?
  2. What chapter are we in?

Besides those who have read the book, there are FReepers with little awareness of Rand and her work. Some are turned off by the length of her works of fiction. Some of a more religious bent have problems with Rand’s atheism. Some wish she had left the few sex scenes out. Some just think she’s a bad writer.

I would like to propose our first FReeper Book Club effort: A chance for a group of us to read Atlas Shrugged together, both old hands and newcomers to the book. Once this effort settles in, I or others might want to start FReeper Book Clubs dedicated to Forrest McDonald’s States’ Rights and the Union, or Alexis de Toqueville’s Democracy in America. I like the idea of an interleaved reading of both the “Federalist Papers” and “Anti-Federalist Papers” together in strict chronological order so as to see the point and counterpoint of the debate over the Constitution. I’ve picked Atlas Shrugged for starters because it’s a hot topic and it’s fun. Once we get into the habit of reading and discussing together, we can tackle the heavier stuff.

The book is divided into 30 chapters. I propose to post a thread on one chapter every Saturday, which would make 30 threads over a period of 30 weeks to cover the entire book. I’ll provide a short synopsis of the chapter, expound on certain themes and raise questions to stimulate debate. If FReeper Book Club members feel that a faster pace is better, we can settle on one.

Atlas and Me

I came to Atlas Shrugged via the usual method: I read it in high school. The bully who sat behind me and enjoyed pounding me at the Catholic prep school I attended in New Jersey exposed me to the book by hitting me on the head with it. Its weight made an immediate impression. Our sophomore English teacher was not teaching the book, and he suggested that the bully pound me with something of lesser weight, such as The Red Badge of Courage.

The English teacher panned the book, stating that it was the kind of book an immature person might enjoy, but a mature adult with experience of the world could not take Rand seriously. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were not realistic.

The vice principal, a priest from Brooklyn who believed in FDR, JFK, LBJ and God, in that order, excoriated Rand for writing “an anti-Christian epic” and broadly hinted that the bully was sinning by reading it. Better to hit someone over the head with it. The solutions proposed by Atlas Shrugged were evil.

I read the book anyway.

The Strange World of Atlas Shrugged

Rand’s book was written between 1945 and 1956 and published in 1957. During the postwar years, America saw massive changes in society and technology, and the shape of world politics shifted mightily. None of this is reflected in the book. Some of the differences between Rand’s world and our own are rather egregious and require comment.

The easiest way to explain these anomalies is to say that Rand lacked the scientific background to project technological change and simply dealt with the technology of her era while projecting political change. But then how did she project the use of ultrasound for Project Xylophone and the holographic projection that protected Galt’s Gulch? There is a strange mix of the old and the new. What marks a total departure from our reality is the change in politics and in the American character.

One can accept all this as artist’s license, but I tried to come up with my own logic for how Rand’s America came to this pass.

Alternative History: Trying the Harry Turtledove Approach

If one wanted to create an alternative history for the universe of Atlas Shrugged, one could start with the 4-way election of 1948. In this alternative history, Henry Wallace won the race, defeating Truman, Dewey and Thurmond, establishing a Labor government on the British model in America. The warning voices of Martin Dies, John Bricker, Joseph McCarthy and Richard Nixon were stilled.

Wallace wanted no cold war with the Soviets, and with the quick withdrawal of American forces from Europe, Germany was reunified under a communist People’s State government. The Soviet Union, now the People’s State of Russia, never geared up for war, settling instead for passive mediocrity. Britain never rejected Clement Atlee, and with the abolition of the monarchy and the establishment of a written constitution on the German model, the People’s State of England replaced the United Kingdom. In France, De Gaulle never came to power, and the Fourth Republic morphed into the People’s State of France.

In the Western Hemisphere, figures similar to Fidel Castro established the People’s State of Mexico and other communist countries in Central and South America.

America did not go all the way to People’s State status, however, although intellectuals worked hard toward that end. Instead, America became a gray, downtrodden country accepting an atmosphere of sad decay, much like England today. Americans accepted that things were hopeless and that nothing could be done. Feelings replaced facts. The very nature of reality was questioned.

It took only a decade of economic stasis, misguided politics and cultural pollution to create the hell described by Rand.

Some Thoughts on the Movie

A scriptwriter would have a hard time shrinking the story to fill a two or three hour time slot even if all the long speeches were eliminated. A miniseries for television would have served the book better.

This effort would be a production designer’s dream. I would point to John Vallone, who handled production design for Walter Hill’s 1984 classic, “Streets of Fire”. Vallone created a fascinating mix of Fifties and Eighties that had no parallel in real time. Something in the same vein would make the movie memorable, rather than setting it in the present or a future that looks like the present.

Let’s Get Started

I will build a ping list for our FReeper Book Club, so sign in on this thread. I’ll use the keyword “freeperbookclub” to mark these threads as they are posted.

Welcome to our first effort. Prepare to read and discuss.


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To: MrB

What was funny about that is that those speeches were actually engrossing to me. Such long-winded passages would normally be a prescription to put me right off the book, but somehow, they were quite interesting in this case.


241 posted on 01/16/2009 2:27:39 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (This election gave the drunks the keys to the liquor cabinet!)
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To: mick

Glad to help. It is a great service.


242 posted on 01/16/2009 5:22:49 AM PST by GatorGirl (Proud member of the Gator Nation!)
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To: Publius

Add me to this ping list, please.


243 posted on 01/16/2009 8:10:25 AM PST by OB1kNOb (Four days until America as we know it will irrevocably CHANGE for the worse.)
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To: Publius

Please, Add me to the ping list


244 posted on 01/16/2009 8:13:55 AM PST by SoldierMedic (Rowan Walter, 23 Feb 2007 Ramadi)
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To: Publius

Please add me to the Ping list. I have read it 3 times and learn something new each time.


245 posted on 01/16/2009 9:35:58 AM PST by GoldenBear
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I will think about it, but I just bought Thomas Sowell’s, “Applied Economics,” and also I have some philosophical differences with Rand.


246 posted on 01/16/2009 9:47:22 AM PST by TAdams8591 (Anyone who believes the West is not in the midst of a great culture war is in complete denial!)
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To: Publius

Thanks for this post. I’m currently reading the book for an upcoming discussion group.


247 posted on 01/16/2009 10:29:06 AM PST by jer33 3
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To: jer33 3

Would you like to join this group?


248 posted on 01/16/2009 11:46:19 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: I_like_good_things_too
We've had a Puget Sound FReeper Chapter since June 1998, and we were one of the first chapters formed. Libertina is our Chapter Executive.

We haven't met for about a year. It's difficult to get people to clear their calendars and agree on a date, and there are a large number of FReepers in the region who don't care to join up and meet other FReepers.

Creating a King County FReeper Book Club would be just as difficult. That is why I decided to take a shot at an on-line club at FR. If you want to take a shot at founding a book club here, go for it. I didn't take on the challenge of an on-line book club until enough people indicated they didn't have the time or energy to do it, and it was going to be myself or nobody.

249 posted on 01/16/2009 11:51:58 AM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peopleÂ’s money.)
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To: Publius

Add me to the list!

I have read it twice, and look forward to reading it again!


250 posted on 01/16/2009 11:54:52 AM PST by jacquej
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To: Publius

Yes, please add me to the ping list. Thanks for facilitating the discussion.


251 posted on 01/16/2009 1:10:40 PM PST by jer33 3
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To: Publius

I’m just starting on the book, so count me in!


252 posted on 01/16/2009 1:24:26 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Posting from an undisclosed location in the Nation of Bitter Clingers.)
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To: Mark was here
There are places you can download a PDF version or even a RTF. The RTF is nice (without a clickable table of contents but obviously searchable) because you can reformat it in any font, size, and column width you like.

The files are 3,876,026 bytes for the RTF and 2,986,194 bytes for the PDF.

253 posted on 01/16/2009 2:13:45 PM PST by Clinging Bitterly (Posting from an undisclosed location in the Nation of Bitter Clingers.)
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To: Publius

Add me, please.

I first read AS in the late 50’s, then again about 30 years ago. I’ve starting reading the hardback again but just ordered 3 paperbacks. One for me, one for a liberal kid of mine and one to loan out.


254 posted on 01/16/2009 3:11:37 PM PST by IM2MAD
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To: Publius

Great idea!

Please add me to your ping list.


255 posted on 01/16/2009 3:19:10 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Publius

I’m interested, and I’m in!

Somehow, though, we’ve got to pull people into the discussion who have not read and are not aware of the theme of Atlas Shrugged.

How to do that?


256 posted on 01/16/2009 3:37:47 PM PST by Taxman (So that the beautiful pressure does not diminish!)
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To: Taxman
Somehow, though, we’ve got to pull people into the discussion who have not read and are not aware of the theme of Atlas Shrugged...How to do that?

The fact that so many people have been responding to this thread means that it's being bumped constantly, and that brings it to people's attention. As each individual chapter thread gets posted, the thread will generate more activity, and people will see that something intellectually stimulating is going on. People will be going back to earlier threads to catch up and jump in.

The best thing you and others can do is ping fellow FReepers to these threads if you think they might be interested in participating.

257 posted on 01/16/2009 3:52:59 PM PST by Publius (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other peoples money.)
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To: Publius

Sign me up!

Thanks.


258 posted on 01/16/2009 3:58:14 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: Taxman

Thanks for the headsup!


259 posted on 01/16/2009 4:03:55 PM PST by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken!)
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To: alexander_busek
Suppose that I'll have to order it online, since I want it in the original.

The original what?

260 posted on 01/16/2009 4:05:39 PM PST by Still Thinking (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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