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Pathetic and Scary Senator

Posted on 12/11/2008 11:36:50 AM PST by rvoitier

This is what passes for intelligent thought on pressing issues these days?


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To: 70th Division
The bankruptch thing and a nation wide depression.

The worst estimate I have heard is that it will increase unemployment by 2 million jobs. That assunmes that if the big three go under, none of the foreign companies building cars in the US will sell a single car nexr year. We lost one fourth of that amount last month, and the world didn't come to an end.

41 posted on 12/11/2008 12:19:37 PM PST by Lucius Cornelius Sulla (Just because I am an Oogedy-Boogedy kind of guy!)
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To: AmericanHunter

All I can say is it is not going to be pretty. I work in Detroit and used to live near Flint. Both are becoming ghost towns. It will be much worse before it gets a little better. I fear for my sons and their families. And Jenny is not helping things.


42 posted on 12/11/2008 12:19:44 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: rvoitier

Someone should tell Barbara Bow-Wow Boxer that this is the Advent Season. The Christmas Season is from midnight on Christmas Day until the Feast of the Epiphany.


43 posted on 12/11/2008 12:22:09 PM PST by MIchaelTArchangel
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To: norton
I don't see what is wrong with the plan as I've heard it described...why not go with it?

There's nothing in Article One, Section Eight of the US Constitution which authorizes Congress to 'lend' taxpayer money to private firms. That's what.

L

44 posted on 12/11/2008 12:24:43 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: Lucius Cornelius Sulla

You have to factor in the ripple. The people who service the big 3. Suppliers and their suppliers, the people that cut hair, grocery stores service cars, ETC. The ripple will be devistating. Maybe you in another state will feel it maybe not. but in Michigan it will be a depression on top of a nation wide recession.


45 posted on 12/11/2008 12:25:36 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: billhilly

Nope all 5 were Cavaleres. LOL But they were all Chebby.Thanks.


46 posted on 12/11/2008 12:27:09 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: 70th Division
The Constitutionally correct solution to GM's problems, that is if you think they're worth 'saving' which I don't, is as follows:

Congress passes a Law to purchase 500,000 (or whatever number will get them profitable) GM vehicles at MSRP.

Problem solved.

No 'auto czar' needed.

L

47 posted on 12/11/2008 12:27:39 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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To: TonyStark

20 years ago, I worked as a Congressional intern. One of my intern buddies hooked up with Boxer’s daughter Nicole. Let’s just say that he pursued Nicole for reasons other than intellectual challenge. And she was compliant with his wishes. He got what he wanted and she, obsessive in her pursuit of a salacious good time, got what she wanted.

He talked with Babs quite a bit, and told me that he thought Nicole was the dumbest person he’d ever met until he met Babs.


48 posted on 12/11/2008 12:28:19 PM PST by oblomov
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To: tx_eggman

Legacy costs are a major factor in GM not making a profit on its cars. Toyota and GM sold the same amount of cars last year. Toyota made a profit GM did not. japan also subsudizes their auto plants. if GM had no retiree pensions and health care to pay for they would do a lot better.


49 posted on 12/11/2008 12:29:57 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: TonyStark

Oh my. Thank you for the new vocabulary word. How sadly appropriate and timely!


50 posted on 12/11/2008 12:31:01 PM PST by lonevoice (Ich bin ein plumber)
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To: 70th Division

No bailouts for anyone/any company/any state.


51 posted on 12/11/2008 12:31:28 PM PST by proud2beconservativeinNJ ("In God We Trust")
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To: Lurker

OK. Works for me.


52 posted on 12/11/2008 12:31:52 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: Lurker

Well, then the Little 3 would have to actually work and produce something to get the money. It’s much easier to go on current events TV programs and threaten us all with economic Armageddon.


53 posted on 12/11/2008 12:32:01 PM PST by oblomov
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To: Lurker
Re loans to private firms.

Granted, but the corral gate isn't just open, it's been trampled.

My point is that the money is already there but for the wrong reason, it's alrady in the mix.

54 posted on 12/11/2008 12:33:53 PM PST by norton
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To: norton

How about the provisions requiring the Big 3 not to challenge any state greenhouse gas emissions? Essentially, they are being bought off not to object to any regs the pwoers that be want to foist on the industry (and by extension, the rest of us).

This thing is so full of conflicts of interest, pork and pure statism it is sickening. It would be more honest if they just nationalized the entire industry.


55 posted on 12/11/2008 12:34:51 PM PST by Steelerfan
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To: rvoitier
If any company is too big to fail.

And it is in fact failing.

Then it is too big to bail out with tax dollars.

56 posted on 12/11/2008 12:38:38 PM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't fly, can't ski, can't drive, can't skipper a boat. But they know what's best.)
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To: 70th Division
You would think differently if you lived in Michigan.

I'm from Michigan. Short term letting the industry fail will hurt. But long term it will be a good thing because it may serve to help break the union stranglehold in our state by getting that entrenched system out of here. Let them fail.

57 posted on 12/11/2008 12:39:39 PM PST by DouglasKC
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To: oblomov
20 years ago, I worked as a Congressional intern. One of my intern buddies hooked up with Boxer’s daughter Nicole. Let’s just say that he pursued Nicole for reasons other than intellectual challenge. And she was compliant with his wishes. He got what he wanted and she, obsessive in her pursuit of a salacious good time, got what she wanted.

He talked with Babs quite a bit, and told me that he thought Nicole was the dumbest person he’d ever met until he met Babs.

Awesome story. Here they are, Dumb and Dumb's Daughter:

Ewww, I wouldn't do either of them on a bet.

58 posted on 12/11/2008 12:41:27 PM PST by TonyStark
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To: DouglasKC

there is no sarcasm here but if you listened to Gettlefinger it sounds like they will do just about anything to save the company too. They have no leverage now.


59 posted on 12/11/2008 12:41:49 PM PST by 70th Division (I love my country but fear my government!)
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To: norton
Granted, but the corral gate isn't just open, it's been trampled.

OK, then we repair the Gate and make it stronger.

The solution to poisoning isn't more poison. It's cleaning the poison out of the system.

This Forum is dedicated to casting the Federal Government back into the Constitutional prison the Founders designed for it, not finding more ways to let it grow.

For Gods sake man, grow a frigging spine and FIGHT.

L

60 posted on 12/11/2008 12:44:50 PM PST by Lurker ("America is at that awkward stage. " Claire Wolfe, call your office.)
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