Sweet - I know where we can get more...
Posted on 12/08/2008 7:12:24 AM PST by cycle of discernment
too bad
bump
I think that is a very real possibility.
True, but I doubt they would bankroll a Kenyan trip (remember, this is 1961 - international airfare was outrageous, and travel was unconfortable at best) for their nine-month-pregnant daughter.
Side note - how many stopovers would there have been for the Obamas to get to Kenya? And then how to get to Obama’s village? Some comfortable african un-airconditioned bus?
Let’s be serious here - this whole idea is silly from the ground up.
Convenient way for the SCOTUS to collectively bury its head in the sand, and welcome a possible illegal alien into the WH - without even having to give a word of explanation to Mr. Donofrio and the millions of us who support his cause.
Belle, I first heard it on Plains Radio when Orly was on there. She said the Dec. 11 date was tentative for the Keyes case.
Since then I haven’t been able to find a concrete date anywhere
Well, there it is. The Presidential candidate receiving the most votes refuses to provide documented proof he is a natural born citizen. All levels of government have failed to enforce the law requiring natural born citizenship. And every elected and appointed government official, sworn to uphold and defend the Constitution, has betrayed his oath.
Historians will note that Monday, 08 December 2008, the Republic died.
Raise ya back!
BUMP to an excellent post, BP2. Just like our troops who fight to defend our nation and our Constitution in spite of those Americans who do not support their mission, we will continue to do our best to protect the Constitution even though there are some who don’t believe it is worth defending anymore.
That really clinched it for me. The people the Clinton have on a personal destruction retainer could go to town if there were even a whiff of any truth here.
Donofrio's case was about the effect of foreign parentage on inherited citizenship. He lost (as in "was not successful") when SCOTUS declined to hear the case.
All I am asking for is evidence to prove any of the theories I have heard floated about. Most of what I have heard so far is noise and accusation, none of which advances the conservative agenda.
The best argument I have heard involves Obama's birth mother, and whether she was indeed old enough, and had lived in the US long enough under then-current law for him to qualify as a native-born citizen. But, that assumption is predicated on whether Barack Obama was born somewhere other than Hawaii. If he was born in HI, there is no doubt about him being a citizen. If not, then he's got a big problem. So: where's the evidence that he was born in Kenya or somewhere other than Hawaii? Nowhere, that I've seen.
A birth certificate issued by any one of the United States is an official document. A certified copy issued under color of state law is also considered presumptively legitimate. To hold otherwise is to invite chaos. What if you lost your driver's license, and got a duplicate from the state, only to have its legitimacy questioned by the state policeman who pulled you over for speeding? Common law is still in effect in some respects, at least.
Loony.
I love how some on the right give up so fast, after one try. Thank God the founders were not like that.
Sometimes in order to break the lake ice we use one huge rock. But sometimes we must just keep adding small rocks until it breaks.
Adjust to the task, not the task adjusts you.
But that alone does not make the case that he is ineligible. You can repeat that all you want, but looking at facts, there are several real glaring points that make O being anything but a natural born citizen very, very unlikely.
Even Donofrio accepts that he was born in Hawaii.
Leo thinks his case was denied on procedure. Leo was well aware of this possibility, and included a complaint against a lower court judge (the letter is part of the docket) to brunt what the Justices might do regarding such specific procedures. Denial on procedures happens all the time. One has to have their ducks in a row when before the SCOTUS. By the way, death sentence appeals might even be denied on procedures.
It hasn't had much traction with the MSM and the other Obama apologists, but it has had lots of traction on the Web.
Sweet - I know where we can get more...
It’s on a blog called Texas Darlin’ (http://texasdarlin.wordpress.com/). She has been researching this for months, to the point of giving herself carpal tunnel from blogging!
The woman who found the announcements, I think her name was Laura Frost but don’t quote me, explained all of this on that blog in October, I think. You might have to poke around to find it, but it’s there.
“Do you have a source for this? That only birth announcements allowed were from the hospital?”
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For present day rules, see here:
—Honolulu Advertiser: http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/current/oh/births
“IMPORTANT: You must attach a photocopy of your baby’s official state-issued birth certificate; we cannot print your announcement without it.”
—Star Telegraph: http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20081026_Vital_Statistics.html
“Each Sunday, the Star-Bulletin publishes Oahu vital statistics for marriage licenses and birth certificates filed with the state Department of Health’s Vital Statistics System.”
For rules in effect in 1961, you have to call them. (I did, after reading this info on another “pro-Obama” site, which said that this was the case.)
You can also compare the two announcements. The Honolulu Advertiser specifically says, at the top of the page, “Health Bureau Statistics.” Both announcements (and the ones before and after the Obama entry) read identically.
Yep, just like the second gunman on the grassy knoll, faked moon landings, rigged moon landings, chemtrails, etc., etc. etc...
Neither wishful thinking nor creative legal reasoning will change reality. If you think John McCain was also ineligible to be President as Mr. Donofrio does, see how many other legal scholars you can find to support that contention.
Make that rigged elections, not moon landings.
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