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I have $2,000 to spend, looking to buy myself a nice Christmas present....

Posted on 12/08/2008 6:15:58 AM PST by Joiseydude

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To: Malsua
So what does that leave me with?

What's a legal semi-auto assualt type rifle in NJ?

161 posted on 12/09/2008 7:19:16 AM PST by Joiseydude (Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,)
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To: Joiseydude

Smith & Wesson Accurized M&P15. About $1,500.


162 posted on 12/09/2008 7:23:58 AM PST by CodeToad
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I don’t know that anything labeled as “assault rifle” is legal in NJ. Basically, anything that “looks scary” is out.

My advice, buy something chambered for 5.56 and add the accessories you want as long as it doesn’t have 2 of the following:

Pistol grip
folding stock
flash suppressor
barrel heat shield(rules are foggy on this one, assume that if it looks “scary”, it’s illegal)

No weapon in NJ can have more than 15 rounds.

I’m sort of in the same boat. I’ve been wanting something in the same sort of thing, but I think I’m going to just settle for a bolt action 5.56(so that I can chamber the cheaper .223 for target). Either that or get a 22-250 which is something I grew up with.

It’s why I’ve been pimping out my shotgun. I literally bought the scope mount, 2 scopes, 18.5 LE/riot smooth barrel, sling and side saddle for it in the past 2 weeks. With my 24” rifled slug barrel and the new 2-7x32 scope, I’ll be accurate to 125yards(2in groups) with the Sabots. With the 42mm red dot scope(cheapy) and the Riot barrel with 00 buckshot, it’s a close range deadly bastard.


163 posted on 12/09/2008 7:39:27 AM PST by Malsua
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To: CodeToad
Smith & Wesson Accurized M&P15. About $1,500.

Telescopic Stock Flash Suppressor 30 round mag Pistol Grip Illegal in NJ. Even if you put a 15 round mag in it, remove the flash suppressor it's still illegal. Saw off the thread for the Flash Suppressor, put in a 15 round mag, saw off the Pistol grip, it might pass.

164 posted on 12/09/2008 7:47:27 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua

Thanks for your help.


165 posted on 12/09/2008 7:47:32 AM PST by Joiseydude (Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with his heel,)
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To: Malsua

No telesopic stock, no flash suppressor. It does have a pistol grip.

Why hasn’t anyone taken NJ to court over their banning of firearms?


166 posted on 12/09/2008 7:52:55 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Joiseydude

You might want to see what kind of job you can buy in Illinois state or the Obamanation for a couple of grand. The Senate seat and cabinet post are kinda pricey, but maybe there is a list price somewhere for the other slots.


167 posted on 12/09/2008 7:55:04 AM PST by myprecious
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To: CodeToad
No telesopic stock, no flash suppressor. It does have a pistol grip.

I don't know that weapon specifically but when I went to the Smith and Wesson website, I saw this:

Model: M&P15
Capacity: 30 Rounds, 5.56 mm or .223 - Illegal
Stock: 6-Position Telescopic Strike One
Note the suppressor strike two, out in the following picture

168 posted on 12/09/2008 8:08:42 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua

To be accurate, the Pistol Grip is also a strike. That plus either the suppressor or the telescopic stock bans it. The 30 round mag makes it immediately banned.

As to the larger question...the ANJRPC, of which I am a member is the face of the NRA in NJ. The organization is constantly in Trenton fighting this garbage. Currently the 50 cal ban is on the table.


169 posted on 12/09/2008 8:11:22 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Malsua
They have an "Accurized" model "M&P15 PC" that looks like this:


170 posted on 12/09/2008 8:39:52 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: CodeToad

Yeah, looks like that’d pass.


171 posted on 12/09/2008 9:11:04 AM PST by Malsua
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To: IYAS9YAS

“Question. In reading about the AR-15, I often see them written up as either .223 (assuming .223 Remington), or 5.56 NATO, or both. I know these rounds are similar, but I didn’t think they were exactly the same. Will any AR-15 shoot both? Or, is it that the AR-15 chambered for 5.56 NATO will also shoot the .223 Remington, but not the other way around?”

The 223 and the 5.56 are almost the same size, but not exactly. In a pinch, a rifle marked 223 can handle 5.56 ammo, but this is not recommended. A rifle marked 5.56 can handle either just fine.

Here is a link with more info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.223_Remington

[Lots of good background info on Wiki; amazing, actually.]


172 posted on 12/09/2008 9:18:55 AM PST by Stat-boy
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To: Malsua

Even with the pistol grip?


173 posted on 12/09/2008 9:38:10 AM PST by CodeToad
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To: Stat-boy

Thanks. I looked up the information on Wiki after I asked the question. Should have done it the other way around...


174 posted on 12/09/2008 9:46:58 AM PST by IYAS9YAS (Hey Obama, why lawyer up when you can pony up? Show us your vault copy BC)
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To: CodeToad

Yes, even with the pistol grip. You’re allowed one “scary” option per rifle.


175 posted on 12/09/2008 9:58:34 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Stat-boy
The 223 and the 5.56 are almost the same size, but not exactly. In a pinch, a rifle marked 223 can handle 5.56 ammo, but this is not recommended. A rifle marked 5.56 can handle either just fine.

The real issue is one of safety. The 5.56 has much higher chamber pressures than the .223 even though the rounds are essentially identical. Most modern rifles chambered for .223 won't explode when you put a 5.56 in it, but I wouldn't want my face near it when I pulled the trigger.

176 posted on 12/09/2008 10:02:55 AM PST by Malsua
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To: Joiseydude

Per the latest headlines, you should be shopping for a Senate seat or a Cabinet appointment.


177 posted on 12/09/2008 10:04:56 AM PST by citizen (Fascism: All persons, capital & activities exist to support the will & best interests of the State.)
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To: ctdonath2

Plus I read that AK-47 Ammo can easily be found in almost every country in the world. Not so with NATO rounds.


178 posted on 12/09/2008 10:11:22 AM PST by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: Malsua

“OK, you can have a pistol grip or write the word ‘Boo!’ on the side, but you can only have one.”


179 posted on 12/09/2008 12:54:31 PM PST by CodeToad
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