Posted on 12/05/2008 10:18:12 AM PST by STARWISE
Four days ago, Roger Bredow uploaded a video to YouTube beseeching like-minded people to come to Washington, D.C. and stand with him outside the Supreme Court.
"[Barack] Obama was born a dual citizen," Bredow said, "British, and a citizen of the United States, at birth." This, said Bredow, meant that the president-elect could never take the oath of office.
And on Friday, the Supreme Court would read Donofrio v. Wells, a suit brought by a New Jersey poker player against his state elections officer, which laid out the charges in the hopes of nullifying the election.
Today at 8 a.m., they came.
"If I'm going to be honest with you," said Bredow, sporting a floppy American flag hat that he'd promised on YouTube he'd be wearing, "I thought I might be the only person here."
He had flown in from Georgia. The other fifteen to twenty people who cycled in and out of the small protest had traveled shorter distances—southern Pennsylvania, northern Virginia—but they felt they had to do something.
The "dual born citizen" claim is the latest (and maybe strongest) attempt by Obama conspiracy theorists to argue that he can't be president, but most of the people I talked to had questioned Obama's citizenship long before this.
"I first heard about it from Phil Berg's case," said Julie Menge of Williamsburg, Virginia, referring to a case that alleges, among other things, that a 2007 state of Hawaii reproduction of Obama's birth certification is forged, and that Obama's paternal Kenyan step-grandmother Sarah was in the room when he was born.
One protestor claimed that a mysterious Muslim imam blessed Obama's birth in Kenya, and that this fact would eventually be revealed, somehow. (He cited African Press International, a bizarre web site that claims it has, but will not make public, a tape of Michelle Obama ranting about racist media coverage of her husband.)
At 9 a.m., a black minister who would only give his name as Brother Pittman led a prayer circle and a recitation of the pledge of allegiance. Pittman, who lives in Silver Spring, came as a "representative of the Rev. James David Manning," a Harlem preacher who became an Internet legend for a February sermon in which he called Obama a "long-legged mack daddy" who was "born trash."
"I've been shunned by members of my own family," Pittman said. "I tell them, do the research! Go online and look up the facts! This is all about openness and why Barack Obama won't answer questions about who he is."
There's nothing new at all about small, strange protests outside the court, whether or not the justices are at work.
While the Obama protestors were praying, a group of 16 young Christians walked up to the other side of the Court steps, strumming a guitar and lighting candles before holding a pro-life prayer vigil.
Police and tourists looked on and a very small group of journalists grabbed the Obama protestors for interviews. "This story is writing itself," said a Mother Jones reporter as he filmed the prayer circle.
The Supreme Court will announce whether it will actually consider the Obama lawsuit as early as today and as late as Monday.
If (as expected) the Court tosses the suit, Bredow will start challenging Obama's legitimacy based on "foreign money that went into his campaign."
Other protestors said they'd start contacting members of the Electoral College. Steve Brindle, who drove down from Pennsylvania, said he'd called his senators yesterday.
"There aren't a lot of people out here today," said Brindle. "There are a lot of people talking about this back home. Really, everyone's asking questions."
The dems have nothing in their convention rule books for this. So who knows? this is unprecedented.
This has been discussed on previous threads in the past. I’m not going to try and look the info up as I don’t think it’ll come into play anyway.
Essential it becomes the DNC committee to name a replacement candidate if Obama is off the ticket prior to the EC vote. There was a link posted to the specific rule/bylaw.
After the EC vote I think the Constitution provides for the process if a president elect fails to qualify, etc.
The court only announces those cases it will be taking on. It announced two cases out of today's conference and Donofrio wasn't one of them. That's a good indication that they won't be taking it on.
Except public education! :)
Based on what?
Take a look at the 20th Constitutionsal Amendment, Section 3.
It’s long but it covers a “President elect” that “fails to qualify,” and goes on to say: “... then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified.”
If Obama is not qualified to be Presiden and Biden is “qualified.” Biden will become President.
Ping.
After McCain supported the bailout, I sent him an email advising him that the only way he was going to see the inside of a White House restroom after Jan. 20 would be for him to put Sarah at the top of the ticket. I feel like a prophet. ~Jim, jmsknives.com
That’s alright. It’s one of many cases that will head to the supreme court.
What the author of the blog actually wrote is: "its unlikely the court won't hear the case."
If it's unlikely they won't, then it's likely they will. While I doubt that this is the author's intended meaning, that is the meaning of what was written.
That would be incorrect. When Obama is ruled ineligible, McCain, who had the next most Electoral Votes, would be named President. It would be as though Obama never ran at all. Thus, McCain would be declared President. Biden would be lucky to keep the V.P. position because they “could” DQ him as well leaving it to Palin.
McCain would also win on the 2nd phase if it went to The House for vote. They would ONLY have McCain to vote on since he was the only other candidate to receive Electoral Votes.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
McCain was born on a Navy base to Navy parents. Panama was a protectorate. Not a big deal. Babies were born to AF parents at Torrejon AB, Spain as U.S. citizens. That base was a U.S. protectorate because the U.S. government leased it. And the delivery surgeon signing the birth certs was a Big Bird Colonel with the delivery time written like 0120 hours, month/day/year. Signed. All Direct information.
If SCOTUS DQ’s Obama, McCain would be named President. Biden would be lucky to keep the V.P. position (because they can DQ the entire Democrat ticket). It would be as though Obama never ran- so obviously, the winner would be McCain.
http://www.rallycongress.com/constitutional-qualification/1244
Correcting the record once again:
John McCain was not born on a military base, nor in the Panama Canal Zone. He was born in Colon, in the Republic of Panama, in a civilian hospital.
Does this mean I’m free from the Ping List for the weekend?
McCain was born in a Panamanian hospital, not on a Navy base. But it's irrelevant because he is a natural born U.S. citizen through his parents. Same reason why virtually all children born to U.S. servicemen abroad are. I'm not the one saying he isn't a natural born citizen, Donofrio is. I'm conviced that McCain is eligible to be president. Donofrio is not.
Well its a more or less free country this week. LOL
and YOU know what makes this site look bad? That's a big mouthful for someone who joined in September.
Thank you for clarifying that to me. I was confused, not an unusual thing.
I thought about that too. Panama was still a protectorate. His mother is still running around at 96. Somebody needs to dare to ask her why she decided to download John McCain in Colon instead of on the base. She looks like she can give a good slap.
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