Not a complete hit piece as I was expecting. The writer mostly sticks to the basic facts of Donofrio's case history... does a little editorializing... correct on a good number of the facts, except ...
DONOFRIO IS NOT DISPUTING THAT OBAMA IS A US CITIZEN!
DONOFRIO IS SAYING OBAMA CANNOT BE A "NATURAL BORN CITIZEN," BECAUSE HIS FATHER WAS A BRITISH CITIZEN AT THE TIME OF OBAMA'S BIRTH.
THAT IS WHAT THE CONSTITUTION DEMANDS IN ART 2, SECT 1, CLAUSE 5. NOT JUST A CITIZEN, BUT A NATURAL BORN CITIZEN.
BOTH PARENTS MUST BE U.S. CITIZENS AND THE CHILD MUST BE BORN ON U.S. SOIL.
You can be just a Citizen if you want to be a Senator or a Representative, but NOT for the *unique* office of President. That's what our Framers decided so the President would not have "divided interests" between our nation and another nation.
Please, journalists, PLEASE -- learn the difference! They are NOT the same.
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12/03/2008 11:43:31 PM PST by
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“Please, journalists, PLEASE — learn the difference! They are NOT the same.”
Don’t you think it is being reported this way on purpose? Journalist are telling 1/2 truth just the way the media loves to report.
106 posted on
12/04/2008 4:11:11 AM PST by
blueyon
(Every one will have their 15 mins under the bus)
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110 posted on
12/04/2008 4:16:27 AM PST by
LucyT
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There is no way that anyone can argue about whether Barack Obama is a citizen, Singer said. "Because I won't allow it, and I am going to move the goalposts!" he continued.
119 posted on
12/04/2008 4:30:27 AM PST by
50sDad
(-/\/\/\- Obama's coming; be a Resistor!)
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To: BP2
There is no way that anyone can argue about whether Barack Obama is a citizen, Singer said. In this country, we have a system known as jus soli or birthright by citizenship. You are a citizen by being born on American soil and he (Obama) was born in Hawaii. Really? Prove it. How hard can it be to simply put the matter to rest with the proper document? By withholding proof, Obama is forcing all these different people to to spend who knows how much money and time on something he could clear up in a minute.
The longer this continues, the more it looks like he truly is not qualified to be POTUS and not just by birth. No matter how this ends, he has shown his lack of character and is not a man worthy of respect, nor the office of President. He cannot be trusted nor counted upon to do the right things on behalf of We, The People.
God bless Justice Thomas. He is a man I most definitely respect and admire.
138 posted on
12/04/2008 5:16:51 AM PST by
GBA
To: BP2
This last statement is what I have been saying all along...Total allegiance...not “mixed” allegiance.
139 posted on
12/04/2008 5:18:11 AM PST by
Sacajaweau
(I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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“BOTH PARENTS MUST BE U.S. CITIZENS AND THE CHILD MUST BE BORN ON U.S. SOIL”
Factually incorrect. A natural born citizen is anyone born within the United States. How do I know? Because I'm a natural born citizen and when I was born neither of my parents were citizens. I've done all the legal footwork on this. It's a fact.
This entire “Obama is not a natural born citizen” episode is very silly. Sure he could have stopped it early on but I think he's enjoying the sight of a bunch of people make fools of themselves.
153 posted on
12/04/2008 5:44:24 AM PST by
ZekeNY
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The AFRO shuchk and jive. Not being able to avoid this story, they do not reveal the facts.
Obama was born in Kenya , as his relatives have repeatedly said. Notice that AFRO says nothing about that.Why?
Our nation is divided now into free patriots and those who wish to abandon our constitution for "socially secure" bondage. Many of us go not quietly into that dark.
Many of us will fight it regardless of cost or consequence.
155 posted on
12/04/2008 5:45:58 AM PST by
Candor7
(Fascism? All it takes is for good men to say nothing, ( member NRA)
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156 posted on
12/04/2008 5:47:12 AM PST by
gunnyg
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My parents or one parent were/was born in Virginia. My mother, pregnant with me, is visiting in Ireland where she goes into labor and I am born in a hostpital in Galway City. We return to the U.S. a few weeks later. Am I eligible to one day run for POTUS?
And the passage from our Constitution reads 'natural born or citizen of the U.S. ...'
157 posted on
12/04/2008 5:52:22 AM PST by
jla
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Hope the Supremes understand the difference between citizen of the U.S. and Natural born citizen of the U.S.
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195 posted on
12/04/2008 6:50:19 AM PST by
Helen
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This case is coming before the court so they won't have to hear a case questioning the "fact" that Obama was actually born on U.S. soil. This is ass-covering time for the court. With it, they can dismiss, and the media can say that "the supreme Court has rejected all arguments against Obama's citizenship". Obama is going to be president, whether he's Constitutionally qualified for the office, or not.
202 posted on
12/04/2008 6:59:31 AM PST by
zeugma
(Will it be nukes or aliens? Time will tell.)
To: BP2
I heard Leo Donofrio state that his case was referred to Conference by the whole court, not just Justice Thomas. Leo said that that was a good sign.
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BOTH PARENTS MUST BE U.S. CITIZENS AND THE CHILD MUST BE BORN ON U.S. SOIL.You just made this up.
Andrew Jackson was the son of two parents who were not born on U.S. soil. Five other presidents (Thomas Jefferson, James Buchanan, Chester Arthur, Woodrow Wilson, Herbert Hoover) each had one parent not born on U.S. soil. Obama would be the sixth president to have one parent not born on U.S. soil.
This "natural born = both parents born on U.S. soil" argument is completely bogus and fabricated and exists nowhere in the U.S. Constitution.
220 posted on
12/04/2008 7:23:05 AM PST by
Drew68
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Obama was born on August 4th, 1961.
Kenya declared independence from the U.K. on December 12th, 1963.
So at the time Obama was born, his father was a British citizen. "Natural Born" status requires that BOTH parents of a "natural born citizen" have to be U.S. Citizens at the time of the person's birth. "Natural Born" status is required to be sworn in as President.
Therefore Obama is disqualified. Which is why Leo Donofrio's case has legs.
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245 posted on
12/04/2008 8:15:50 AM PST by
pissant
(THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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Maybe posted elsewhere, but World Net Daily has posted a petition and is taking orders for letters to SCOTUS to consider hearing case till 12:00 Eastern Time.
To: BP2
There is no requirement that a “natural born” U.S. citizen have both parents be U.S. citizens or even to be born on U.S. soil or territory.
However it would be required that Obama be born to Stanley Dunham (his mother) on U.S. soil as his father was not a U.S. citizen and his mother was not old enough to automatically convey “natural born” status upon her son; if he were in fact born in a foreign nation.
Please get at least the basics correct or someone might think you have no idea what you are posting about.
248 posted on
12/04/2008 8:22:29 AM PST by
allmendream
(Wealth is EARNED not distributed.... so how could it be Redistributed?)
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