Posted on 11/24/2008 7:06:52 PM PST by jveritas
Early voting in Presidential elections should be made illegal because it is against the Constitution that specifies one day to be Pesidential elections day which is the first Tuesday after the first Monday of November.
I strongly believe that one of the most important factors if not the most important factor that we lost this elections is due to early voting. It is a certain way for cheating and fraud.
Most of the battleground states were lost because of the early voting. The democrats amassed the necessary votes in the early voting to win. That is how they won Ohio, North Carolina, Florida, Nevada, and Virginia. Without the early voting I am confident that they would have lost.
The Republicans who control state legislatures should make it illegal to have early voting in their states. Also our side should go the courts and make this fraud process called early elections totally illegal on the national level.
....for them to vote they should have doctor approval to their mental capabilities....
Such irony, and you posted that to one of the biggest McCainiacs on this forum.
C'mon, sugah, put some oomph behind that swing.
And neither did I say that the drooling cretins encountered during past elections needed doctor approval for holding up the line.
Nothing says the entire vote must be done in one day, just that the electors shall be appointed on that day. That is a law made by congress which can be changed at anytime, not a requirement of the Constitution, which only demands that the electors, not the electorate, all vote on the same day.
And, jveritas, by requiring the military to vote in one day you would be disenfranchising large numbers of them. Military operations cannot and will not come to a halt all over the world for one day so military members can vote. Otherwise, we are asking to be attacked on that day.
I find it revealing that nobody here complained during the last two elections when the Pubbies beat the pants off the Dems in early voting. Run a candidate who actually has some core conservative values and the willingness to articulate them and we’ll win, every time. Run Mr. Lib Lite Wishy Washy and lose, every time. The failure is wholly and completely that of the Republican Party and McCain, not the voting system.
That relates to the Electoral College.
There's no constitutional requirement for a "popular vote" at all.
Thank you very much.
Absolutely! Especially when you ahve Obama, himself, saying, “vote early, vote often”!! That’s real democratic, isn’t it? Knowing that honest people would not do that, he knows he can steal the election. That should’ve been brought up and challenged politically after he said that.
“U.S. Constitution:The Congress may determine the Time of chusing the Electors, and the Day on which they shall give their Votes; which Day shall be the same throughout the United States. “
Pay a little bit of attention to what it says: it says that *the electoral college* must cast all their *electoral votes* on the same day (in the early days, when state legislatures typically picked the “electors”, it would have been bad if the states could play waiting games and see who the other states were going for).
This means that the popular vote can take place in any manner and timing the congress chooses since this is the means of "chusing" the Electors. The Electors (Electoral College) must meet and vote on the same day.
Amen. With the exception of sevicemen on duty overseas, if you can't get to the polling place on election day, you obviously don't care enough to have your vote count.
I'd even go further though.
If you don't pay taxes, you shouldn't have a vote either.
I hope that there is such a law.
I think you'd have to look at the posts around the last election. I always vote on election day and have always considered such travesties as "motor-voter" and unrestricted early voting to be bad things. Probably said so several times over the last 10 years or so that I've been posting on this site, but I have neither the time, nor inclination to look for it.
The only exceptions I'd make is for military voting and perhaps voting at embassies, because at both locations you could have trained people to maintain a chain of custody to prevent fraud.
I'd also strongly recommend that anyone who hasn't voted in the last two election cycles be automatically purged from the rolls.
“The only exceptions I’d make is for military voting and perhaps voting at embassies, because at both locations you could have trained people to maintain a chain of custody to prevent fraud.”
That’s utterly and completely unworkable. Military members and their families do not vote the same ballot. Each votes the ballot of his/her “home of record,” which could be anywhere from NYC to a small town in Alaska. Each gets a ballot from his/her particular jurisdiction, so that one servicemember may vote to retain judges in Florida while another votes for County Council members in Iowa and another for the governor of New Mexico. Many ballots require an OCR reader, others are counted using other specialized equipment, while still others, especially those from small jurisdictions, are designed to be hand-counted. Those are decisions made by supervisors of elections all over the US, not DOD. And it is their right, not DOD’s, to do so. The same goes for members of the diplomatic corps and their families. They vote their various absentee ballots, which are returned to their proper jurisdictions for authentication, counting and certification. In the case of both DOD and the State Department, voting is a many-months-long process, as the proper ballots are requested, received, voted, and returned.
Suppose we adopt your “voting at embassies” and “chain of custody” idea. Who is going to train and equip all those thousands of people to count the tens of thousand of potential types of ballots? Who is going to certify the results? The Constitutions of the 50 states require that their Secretaries of State certify the vote and award electors to the winning candidates. Do you really want to give that states’ right over to the Executive Branch of the federal government, the same Executive Branch that will be under the control of BO and the Dems in two months? That would violate the Constitutions and weaken the authority of all fifty states where elections are concerned. I thought conservatives were for states’ rights and limiting the authority of the Federal Government. I know I am.
I have no problem with absentee or early voting. There is no constitutional reason to oppose it. It is a states’ rights issue and people should decide at that level what the rules should be, as long as they comply with the Constitution, which says very little on the matter.
Attempting to blame early voting for the Republicans’ loss, as this thread does, is shortsighted and ultimately self-defeating. “The system” didn’t cause the Republicans to lose. Blaming “the system” for one’s problems is what liberals do. ACORN didn’t give Obama 365 electoral votes. Nope, the Republicans did that, and unless and until the Republican Party is willing to face up to its core problem, which is that it doesn’t stand for anything anymore, it will continue to lose elections, whether we all go the polls one single day or not.
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