Romney Socialisim Alert

Vanity Fox & Friends ^ | 11/20/08 | NavVet

[NavVet]

Romney was just interviewed on Fox and Friends and said that it was unfair that that the Big Three American Automakers were burdened by the high retirement costs and that we had to "make sure those cost were shared by the transplants (Toyota, Honda, VW etc.).

[MrB]

That doesn’t even count the overhead and opportunity cost required to comply with the union BS everyday.

[CharlesWayneCT]

He probably said we needed to get the big 3 costs “in line with” the foreign company costs.

I can see how some would mishear that as saying we needed to raise the costs for the other companies.

You have to remember that it’s not just liberals that suffer from derangement syndromes, there’s an RDS around FR that leads people to misunderstand a lot of what is said.

Unfortunately, they get a lot of encouragement, so we still see lots of false and misleading stories posted.

[libbylu]

THAT IS NOT WHAT MITT SAID. YOU HAVE THE FREAKING LIBERAL DISEASE ALSO.

[CharlesWayneCT]

FOr those who don’t know how people work to mislead on the board, note the word “accessed”.

None of the quotes that are dated “9/17/07” were made in 2007, they are all very old quotes which the poster simply “accessed” on the date given.

[getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL]

Fug-gedduh-boud-dit Romney. We’ll remember this.

[CharlesWayneCT]

He did not propose 25 billion, and his proposal was for investment in new technology, not giving the automakers loans so they could pay off the union.

But thanks for playing.

[9YearLurker]

I believe there is an federal insurance system in place to protect some level of retirement benefits, but not all. However, I’m sure there’s someone on this board who knows the situation much better than I do.

[Diogenesis]

It sure fits with Romney's imposition of socialism (which fails).

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Sen. John Kerry to Don Imus on RomneyCARE=HillaryCARE: "I like this (Romney socialized medicine) health care bill".

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The Price of RomneyCare The Wall Street Journal July 29, 2008; Page A16
Gearing up for 2009, liberals are eager to claim Massachusetts as a Valhalla of health reform. Their enthusiasm is apparently evidence-proof.

Even Mitt Romney, who should know better, took to these pages recently to proclaim, "Health-care reform is working in Massachusetts." Shortly after Mr. Romney's self-tribute, Governor Deval Patrick wheeled out a new $129 million tax plan to make up for this year's health spending shortfalls. Yet partisans are cheering the cost overruns as a sign of success.

Supporters are exultant because 350,000 people are newly covered since former Governor Romney's parley with Beacon Hill Democrats in 2006; this cuts the state's uninsured rate by about half. That's not the promised "universal" system, but never mind. The ominous news is that only about 18,000 people -- or 5% of the newly insured -- have taken advantage of the "connector," which was supposed to be the plan's free-market innovation linking individuals to private insurers.

Most of this growth in coverage has instead come via a new state entitlement called Commonwealth Care. This provides subsidized insurance to those under 300% of the poverty level, or about $63,000 for a family of four. About 174,000 have joined this low- or no-cost program, a trend that is likely to speed up.

As this public option gets overwhelmed, budget gaskets are blowing everywhere. Mr. Patrick had already bumped up this year's spending to $869 million, $144 million over its original estimate. Liberals duly noted that these tax hikes are necessary because enrollment in Commonwealth Care is much higher than anticipated. But of course more people will have coverage if government gives it to them for free. The problem is that someone has to pay for it.

Thus the extra tab of $129 million, which may need to go higher because it relies on uncertain federal funds from Medicaid. For now, Mr. Patrick wants one-time (yeah, right) charges of $33 million on insurers and $28 million on providers, plus some shuffling of state funds. The balance comes from an estimated $33 million boost in the state's "pay or play" tax: If businesses don't offer "fair and reasonable" insurance to their employees, they get hit.

This is a textbook example of how business taxes evolve into "pay or pay," the first recourse of state-funded health systems. Politicians love levies on business because they disguise the overall bill from voters. But such taxes are merely passed along to workers in the form of reduced take-home pay, since all health costs are part of compensation.

The main reason people are uninsured is because coverage is too expensive. Massachusetts didn't have many options for reforming the way health dollars are laundered in the third-party payment system created by the federal tax code. But it could have helped make insurance cheaper by reforming its private market before defaulting to public programs.

The Bay State has long served up coverage-specific insurance mandates, such as for fertility treatments, which raise costs. Yet in a just-deserts twist, Massachusetts health planners are now reviewing ways to trim mandates because the state is footing more of the bill, even if they didn't care when imposing them on individuals and small business. A state-sponsored study shows that total spending on mandates was $1.32 billion in 2005, or 12% of premiums. The study is devastating despite its pro-mandate slant.

Not that such practical lessons have stopped liberals from joining the Massachusetts parade. They have to gussy up the state's model because the extravagant claim that led to its creation -- that health care will be less expensive if everyone is covered -- is being relentlessly discredited. It's the same claim they want to make when they try to pass a similar plan for the whole country in next year's Congress.

[CharlesWayneCT]

lived with Mitt the Politician for almost 15 years

Sounds a little like a homoerotic fantasy. There's a couple others here who sometimes post that they've known Romney personally for decades, when they really just mean they've been stalking him after working on some campaign for a couple of months.

[Diogenesis]

Well, at least you admit Myth ROmney is nothing but a shapeshifting flip-flopper, whatever the dates.

Good for you.

[tbpiper]

Thanks for the clarification.

[Sci Fi Guy]

Willing to bet you misheard him!!!!

Rommney has already said no bailout. They need to file chapter 11 so they can regorganize and have the same contracts and business arrangments as their competitors. They cannot do that unless they declare bankruptcy first.

[Diogenesis]

libbylu: "I HATE IT WHEN PEOPLE LIE."

Does that include Romney? He lied about badges, falsified awards, and lied in his advertising.

Romney lying about fake LEO badges (caught in 2 states, not caught in 48 others).

Romney aide’s bogus badges: Sources detail ‘illegal’ security tactic

" Boston Herald - Friday, July 20, 2007
In an apparent violation of the law, a controverisal aide to ex-Gov. Mitt Romney
created phony law enforcement badges that he and other staffers used on the campaign trail
to strong-arm reporters, avoid paying tolls and trick security guards
into giving them immediate access to campaign venues, sources told the Herald.
“They (the aides) knew the badges were fake and probably illegal,”
said a presidential campaign source who asked for anonymity
because the story could damage the individual’s career.
Two additional sources confirmed that the badges - described as bright silver plates with a state seal attached -
were first created and used by Garrity while Romney was still governor."

[Enosh]

“... take down the names of these posters.”

An enemy list, eh? How quaint. Are you going to sick Obama’s gestapo on us?

[GOP_Lady]

Didn’t we have a conversation on multiple occasions regarding your posting this untruth?

[GOP_Lady]

Indeed, they are lying.

[restornu]

Romney said that all auto makers should be helded by the same standards and the Big three could not compete with all of the contraints put on them by Congress,cafe standards and the Union pension etc., which the transplants auto makers do not have to content with.

so you are misleading in your reply just to slam Romeny you LDS haters are a real piece of work!

[restornu]

thank you for clarifying this!

[GOP_Lady]

You’re welcome.

He’s been saying it for days. Read his article in the NY Times.