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Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

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To: davisfh; All

I actually think that the Supreme Court might just address one or more of these suits. It is pretty clear when you have this many lawsuits all across the country regarding the issue of Obama’s citizenship status, that there is a precedent needed to clear this issue up once and for all.

I am sure the supreme court justices are all aware that there have been a number of lawsuits and that that there is no clear path for verifying a candidates eligibility or who has standing to address this. Because of this I do think they will at the very least clarify who has standing to verify a candidates qualifications and perhaps designate how this should be properly addressed.

Maybe I am overly optimistic, but I think that there are at least enough supreme court justices that beleive in the constitution that they will address this, if for no other reason, than because it could create a situation whereby a person who might be ineligible to serve could be sworn in as president. If it were to come to light after Obama was sworn in as president that he was not a natural born citizen, it would clearly be a constitutional crisis and would reflect very badly on the supreme court if they had failed to take a case that could have prevented this.


361 posted on 11/14/2008 11:06:02 PM PST by Flamenco Lady
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To: gov_bean_ counter

Congress received certified EV from the states. If those for Zero are nullified for being cast for an ineligible candidate the state does not get a do over. Congress must choose from 3 candidates who have received certified EV and that would be McCain, McCain or McCain since he is the only one to have received EV.

Our Founders did not anticipate mass national parties taking control of the process which limits the number of candidates who actually receive EV.


362 posted on 11/14/2008 11:07:55 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: solfour

who you are missing here?
The veterans.

American legion,VFW,etc. Get them on board then see what happens!


363 posted on 11/14/2008 11:08:24 PM PST by OL Hickory (hear that sound..its a hammer hitting the nail on its head!!)
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To: solfour

I’m telling you right now that if this man is declared inelligible to be President, there will be riots in the streets.


364 posted on 11/14/2008 11:08:48 PM PST by Pinkbell (Liberals are only tolerant of those with whom they agree.)
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To: Doofer

Well what you ARE seeing is the first time in US history court cases have been filed raising this question.


365 posted on 11/14/2008 11:09:08 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: thesetruths
I was just adding that Bill Clinton also had some interesting concerns shall we say in his background, not unlike the present One.

Yep. Billy Blythe was boogying around Red Square at an interesting time in history. But... he IS an American citizen and he was fairly elected to the office of President of the United States.

366 posted on 11/14/2008 11:09:55 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: arrogantsob

Yes, we have all the “boyhood homes” sprinkled throughout the country.


367 posted on 11/14/2008 11:10:47 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: arrogantsob
Hamilton’s genius and concern had been thwarted by the creation of the forerunner of the Democrat party in the early 1790s by Jefferson and Madison. A party created explicitly to stop him and his ideas. Slowly democratic influence has been expanded and the federal structure weakened as the electorate has expanded to include 35% who pay no income taxes. Federalism was also critically injured by the direct election of Senators.

Our Founders despised parties, factions they called them, and would have never believed that one so large and opposed to critical national interests as the Democrat would obtain power.


It didn't happen until International Communism figured out that it could take the Hill Billy Party and turn it into a vehicle for achieving International Labor/socialist goals in the United States of America. Its been a fun ride since the 1930’s. Looks like they have pretty much achieved their goals.

368 posted on 11/14/2008 11:12:54 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: epow

“Sadly, I doubt any court, including SCOTUS, will get involved in this matter. I hope I’m wrong.
Unfortunately you aren’t, at least not IMHO.

But even if a federal court becomes involved and the USSC ultimately grants a writ of certiorari the case probably wouldn’t work it’s way to that point until half way through the Annointed One’s term. I seriously doubt that Kennedy would go along with the four originalists to unseat him part way through his term even if he is proved to be Constitutionally ineligible for the office.”

Au contraire - mon frere ...

SCOTUS would CERTAINLY fast-track this ... and it could be disposed of within a couple of weeks.

There is NO trial in this case.

Federal Marshalls would be dispatched to collect ALL documents from ALL cases pending (including the vault BC) and then the FBI would conduct forensic analysis.

Results of forensic analysis would be presented to SCOTUS, presumably in chambers.

Decision would likely be immediate after that.


369 posted on 11/14/2008 11:14:59 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: LucyT

Got it,,,TANKS...


370 posted on 11/14/2008 11:16:10 PM PST by 1COUNTER-MORTER-68 (THROWING ANOTHER BULLET-RIDDLED TV IN THE PILE OUT BACK~~~~~)
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To: Pinkbell
I’m telling you right now that if this man is declared inelligible to be President, there will be riots in the streets.

Not to mention significant dancin’ in the streets! Depends on which side you are on...

371 posted on 11/14/2008 11:16:28 PM PST by April Lexington (We are now in the era of Timothy Leary Economics!)
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To: April Lexington

If you call his shady campaign finances fair; I don’t.


372 posted on 11/14/2008 11:16:47 PM PST by thesetruths
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

Actually McCain would be President for reasons I have discussed a liitle above.


373 posted on 11/14/2008 11:19:37 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: ellery

“— but it’s wise for us to tread lightly until these lawsuits play out.”

Correct, NONE of the pols want to touch this (BOTH DEMS and GOP). I think they are secretly hoping that SCOTUS will grant Cert and (if there is no valid BC) carry the water for them.

That way, they got cover ...

Bush has a legacy (whats left of it, anyway)

Hillary can regain the mantle of the DEMS and run in 2012.

AND, NOBODY gets labelled a racist - ‘ceptin’ maybe SCOTUS - but what do they care ... they have life tenure!


374 posted on 11/14/2008 11:21:34 PM PST by Lmo56
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To: EternalVigilance

Thanks for posting this important info.


375 posted on 11/14/2008 11:22:06 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: El Gato

McCain conceded. Sarah Palin did not!


376 posted on 11/14/2008 11:22:17 PM PST by My hearts in London - Everett (Those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.)
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To: April Lexington
‘Tis over. Accept it. I just saw an ad from some low-rent mail-order douche from Norwalk, CT selling Obama commemorative coins. Sickness beyond belief. For reference, Google Germany, 1938.
377 posted on 11/14/2008 11:22:40 PM PST by Cyberrat (Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither.)
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To: Ghost of Philip Marlowe

There will be no amendment without State ratification and that will not happen prior to the date a new president must be sworn in.


378 posted on 11/14/2008 11:23:57 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
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To: solfour
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

I just looked on the Hawaii Department of Health website. The only type of birth record that one can request from them is a "certified copy" of a birth certificate, which I think is the type of document that Obama has previously displayed. (Personally I believe that this is a real document.)

So what is really being requested here is that Obama "order" that the original vault copy of his birth certificate be displayed. Various speculative theories hold that this original certificate will reveal information not on the modern "certified copy" and that this additional information will somehow disqualify him.

Perhaps Obama could request that the Hawaii DOH take the unusual step of somehow displaying his original birth certificate (which they apparently never do for anyone else), but he can't "order" the DOH to do so, since he has no authority over them.

Perhaps a court could do so, but wouldn't it have to be an Hawaiian court?

379 posted on 11/14/2008 11:24:41 PM PST by wideminded
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To: Revolting cat!

“The response was that the parties were responsible to certify their candidates.

That is pure Barbra Streisand. In fact, the Constitution provides no mechanism for certifying the candidates, but political parties are private organizations that can present Mickey Mouse as a candidate, and it’s their right.”

The fact that there is no mechanism in the Constitution does not mean that the Founding Fathers did NOT want verification when necessary ...


380 posted on 11/14/2008 11:25:08 PM PST by Lmo56
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