Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.
The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
The newspaper announcements do not have place of birth, only parents residence. They don't even have the child's name. But the same are true for all the other birth announcements in those two newspapers. (It's not clear to me that they aren't different versions of the same paper, as was often the case. It was in my home town, the morning and evening papers had different names, but were, really from the same publisher, although they had once been separate. Now they are only one paper, with a hyphenated name, and that's far from the only town/city that happened in.
Someone who knows the truth about his medical history.
I wonder if this is why Obama did NOT make his medical records available - like ALL other candidates in recent memory ... perhaps the first records are from ... WAIT FOR IT ... KENYA!
Birth certificates are not issued when you are born in a Manger!
Check this out. . .
http://thechurchofbarackobama.blogspot.com/
Hillary was in the pew next to me.
“Que the Hawaii 5 0 music.”
OK
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AepyGm9Me6w&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79v97DcIU98
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oXDqlKFWBhU&feature=related
It's not. But the confusion arises, perhaps, because a child born there, of an American citizen (which most military members are), even if the other parent is not, will in general be an American citizen. Only in cases where the Citizen parent doesn't meet the residency requirements, (time in service regardless of where served counts as US residency). Even more often *both* parents will be US Citizens, even if one is "only" naturalized", and in such cases the child has US Citizenship at birth. But the same would be true if the parents were living off post/base/station and the child was born in a foreign hospital (as happens with personnel assigned to embassies, attaches and Marine guards).
Berg has a big ad in the Washington Times now.
The short form COLB says on it: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”
Obama’s short form COLB says that he was born in Honolulu, in the County of Honolulu, on the Island of Oahu at 7:24 PM on August 4, 1961.
The short form is an abridged version of the vault copy.
According to Hawaii statutes, he need not present any further documentation of birth.
There is no existant federal statute which requires a citizen to produce the vault copy of their birth certificate as opposed to the short form in order to verify “natural born” status.
OF COURSE NOT - SILLY GOOSE ...
The famous “necessary and proper” clause of the Constitution allows Congress to exercise many powers NOT specifically granted to it in so many words by the Constitution:
Article I, Section 8, Paragraph 18:
“... To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into Execution the foregoing Powers, and all other Powers vested by this Constitution in the Government of the United States, or in any Department or Officer thereof.”.
BUT, THEY HAVE NOT MANDATED POTUS ELIGIBILITY VERIFICATION, AS YET ...
HOWEVER:
9th Amendment:
“The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.”
AND:
10th Amendment:
“The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”
These two (2) Amendments proclaim that there are rights held by the People that are NOT expressly stated in the Constitution and there are powers reserved to the People.
AND:
We ALSO have the Founding Father’s concept of “original intent” - they CLEARLY DID NOT want a non natural born citizen to be POTUS.
I assert that the People have a right to verify the eligibility of candidates for office and absent any authority by law of the United States Government or of the States, that power devolves to the People.
I also assert that by bestowing a vote on a candidate and his (or her) acceptance thereof, is an “contract”.
A contract is an agreement between two or more parties which creates an obligation to do or not do a particular thing. Its essentials are competant parties, subject matter, a legal consideration, mutuality of agreement, and mutuality of obligation.
In this case, I agree to give you my vote ... you agree that you are qualified.
Of course, it may be an “implied contract”.
An implied contract is an agreement which can legitimately be inferred from intention of parties as evidenced by circumstances and ordinary course of dealing and common understanding of men. It is not created or evidenced by the explicit agreement of the parties, but inferred by the law, as a matter of reason and justice, from their acts or conduct, the circumstances surrounding the transaction making it a reasonable, or even a necessary, assumption that a contract existed between them by tacit understanding.
Or:
It might be an implied “conditional contract”.
An implied conditional contract would be one with the same attributes as an implied contract, above - but ALSO with the attributes of a conditional contract.
A conditional contract owes its very existance and performance (in this case, a vote) to dependence upon a contingency (POTUS eligibility).
Berg has a big ad in the Washington Times now.
Tuesday’s paper?
He would no doubt be better, but Libertarians are only part time Conservatives, and there is a deep divide on many social issues.
I just Wish there was a candidate I could actually vote for proudly, Reagan was the last one, Palin could become one, time will tell, but I hope she puts the effort polishing her message, how to deal with the hostile press, and the RINO bigots that occupy the RNC leadership.
Yeah, ask Michael New feels about that.
Maybe it should be, but under the law 72 years ago, it was not. The law is very clear.
Now the senate danced around the issue by declaring with a sense of the Senate that he was eligible. The SSB, has no affect of law. For all we know if McCain was elected this issue would have returned to bite us.
WE aren't wasting our time, you are.
Thank you, I agree with your comment I read earlier as well.
This is an issue about right or wrong, laws and the Constitution of the United States.
Nothing else.
If everyone who wishes this to go away would stop looking at the gray areas that they are using as arguments they would understand.
This is about Right or Wrong. 1 + 1 = 2. Stop trying to make it complicated.
I believe many know the truth as well. It is nice to know others feel this is important and should not go away until the complete truth is known.
Thanks for the Hawaii Five 0 Music!! I find it hard to walk down a nice beach without that song in my head. lol!
Book um Danno! Post 2044
Thank you so much for the great links. I am going to make time sometime today to hear that radio show. I really appreciate you keeping me in the loop. The last week has been crazy around here and I haven’t been able to Freep as much as usual.
I sure hope (and pray) you’re right!
I think “Toots” was the name Obama’s Hawaiian grandmother went by, if that’s relevant at all.
After reading the law suit from New Jersey, I think its a “case closed” ..... very simple argument that cant be lost. (If judged on merit of the law ... big if)
No matter where Obama was born, he was a citizen of a GB colony at birth, that being Kenya. By law.
Georg Washington, born in Virginia, was a British citizen at birth. Just like Obama. The constitution has a grandfather clause to allow him to be president. There is no such clause for Obama.
I find this incredible. If the law is followed, Obama may in fact be found to be an illegal alien.
If a foreigner (His father) has a child born here, the child is not automaticaly a US citizen. Exactly when did Obama become a US citizen? At birth it seems he was a legal British citizen. He in fact admits this. He then became an Indonesian citizen. Then a Kenyan citizen. When did he apply for US citzenship and become a naturalized citizen? He didn't.
Did the Democrat party anoint Obama with citizenship, now with the threat and blackmail of riots if not accepted?
A law suit should be filed suing for Federal Immigration Action.
“Obama may in fact be found to be an illegal alien....”
And therein lies the Capitol Hill resistance to meaningful immigration reform and enforcement.
Leo’s case got docketed today! So it should be hopefully getting to Justice Thomas.
Leo’s web site is swamped. I worry we will end up losing FreeRepublic to Obama. FR is never up anymore, conservative talk show hosts are muzzled, Atlas Shrugs blogger is getting threats from OBots via instant messages.
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