Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Constitutional crisis looming over Obama's birth location
World Net Daily ^ | 11/14/08 | Bob Unruh

Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour

The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.

The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.

WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.

The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.

(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alankeyes; alinsky; antichrist; ayers; bc; birth; birthcertificate; border; certifigate; choomgang; citizenship; colb; communism; crime; crisis; democrats; dohrn; dunham; electiom; election; electoralcollege; foreigner; fraud; giveitup; illegalalien; immigration; kenya; keyes; law; letitgoalready; makeitstop; naturalborn; news; notthisshiitagain; obama; obamabinlyin; obamagate; obamatransitionfile; obamatruthfile; odinga; pipedream; president; socialism; unitedstates; war; worldnetdaily; worldnutdaily
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 1,381-1,4001,401-1,4201,421-1,440 ... 2,501-2,502 next last
To: 1_Rain_Drop

If he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro in 1966 in Hawaii his original long form birth certificate would have been sealed and he himself would need a court order to unseal it. Hawaiian birth certificates at the time had a spot on them at the time for “Country of Birth” although we do not know who registered the birth! Could Grandma have registered the birth or did Ann saying he was born at home? We simply do not know.


1,401 posted on 11/16/2008 1:12:59 PM PST by Chief Engineer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1393 | View Replies]

To: thesetruths
source please

TV of Course.

On a chilly January afternoon in 2005

PoliticalWire "You know," he said quietly, "I hope you don't mind me giving you a piece of advice."

"Not at all, Mr. President." He nodded. "You've got a bright future," he said. "Very bright. But I've been in this town a while and, let me tell you, it can be tough. When you get a lot of attention like you've been getting, people start gunnin' for ya. And it won't necessarily just be coming from my side, you understand. From yours, too. Everybody'll be waiting for you to slip. Know what I mean? So watch yourself."

"Thanks for the advice, Mr. President."

"All right. I gotta get going. You know, me and you got something in common."

"What's that?" "We both had to debate Alan Keyes. That guy's a piece of work, isn't he?"

I laughed, and as we walked to the door I told him a few stories from the campaign.

It wasn't until he had left the room that I realized I had briefly put my arm over his shoulder as we talked -- an unconscious habit of mine, but one that I suspected might have made many of my friends, not to mention the Secret Service agents in the room, more than a little uneasy.

--------------------------------------

This sounds very much like the president made the statement, the way I read it.

1,402 posted on 11/16/2008 1:13:08 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1388 | View Replies]

To: Cheerio

Bump for Alan Keyes. May the chickens come home to roost!


1,403 posted on 11/16/2008 1:14:02 PM PST by freepersup (!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1361 | View Replies]

To: upcountry miss
silly graphics always strenghen every debate.

Nope but they can make a statement, your argument is boring.

1,404 posted on 11/16/2008 1:15:50 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1397 | View Replies]

To: freepersup

LOL sorry about the formatting I take the easy way with a gibbled arm. As I mentioned last night I shattered my upper right arm and take as many shortcuts as possible including formatting!(I am right handed) My mind is usually running about 50 miles per hour as I remember what I am talking about and trying to convey it to others. A teacher I am not!


1,405 posted on 11/16/2008 1:17:03 PM PST by Chief Engineer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1398 | View Replies]

To: itsahoot

I don’t have a TV.


1,406 posted on 11/16/2008 1:22:52 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1372 | View Replies]

To: itsahoot
You said it happened "recently:"

Just taped conversation when GW and the One got together las week. It was played on TV.

It didn't happen recently, if it happened at all. According to Obama in the Audacity of Hope, it was a private conversation, and this is his memory of it. Rather self-serving on his part, I might add, since he uses GWB to diss Alan Keyes, who was his recent opponent, and is still on his case.

I am trying to set the record straight. There is no proof that Bush said this in 2005 or at all.

1,407 posted on 11/16/2008 1:24:04 PM PST by thesetruths
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1402 | View Replies]

To: Chief Engineer
A very minor point on my part (the formatting). Your contributions to the quality of material within the borders of this thread are what pulled me in. I forget sometimes that you are not in Hawaii, but in a read out up north. ;o) Keep on keepin’ on! There's plenty a work to do. D@mn I wish I was in Hawaii right about now. There's some top notch diggin’ to be had.
1,408 posted on 11/16/2008 1:26:16 PM PST by freepersup (!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1405 | View Replies]

To: GoodDay

It was fun (for a while) debating this issue with you but you’ve become tiresome. I’m done now.
Take good care.


1,409 posted on 11/16/2008 1:26:52 PM PST by jamese777
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1399 | View Replies]

To: freepersup
Yes, it can be difficult for most to plow through. Or to plough thru.

Chief likes it because he is more familiar and involved in the story. For someone else, less familiar, less invested, it would be difficult to follow the phrase by phrase scrutiny. It is a thing rarely seen done. If I had to teach it to a class of older high schoolers or adults it would take at least an hour, maybe two periods. With college students it would depend on the class, might be able to get through it in less than a period.

The point is that the article being analyzed is itself suspect for being an attempt to cloud some issues. To make it seem that the issue has been considered and resolved, when actually there are many questions open.

Did Obama'a mom actually ever live with Obama Sr.? That's one question. Were they ever married? That's a second question. How can we resolve such questions?

I don't know, but I do know that the reporter did not resolve them, and by reading the article carefully it is seen that the reporter was gathering facts that opened up more questions, yet was reluctant to admit that facts did not fit a simple narrative and were becoming incoherent with the marriage narrative.

1,410 posted on 11/16/2008 1:28:21 PM PST by bvw
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1398 | View Replies]

To: Lexinom

If history is any indication the response will be “I am not taking this test.”


1,411 posted on 11/16/2008 1:30:25 PM PST by arrogantsob (Hero vs Zero)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 438 | View Replies]

To: freepersup

LOL I have to admit that history is a love of mine and I found this case very interesting for the lack of information. I would dearly love a trip to Hawaii to do some investigating but alas it is beyond me! I thank you for your compliment.(If only you knew how often I had to hit the back case key to correct spellings and missed letters, I am not ambidextrous except when typing and miss the agility of my former hand/arm. Stiffness and lack of range are definitely a problem!)


1,412 posted on 11/16/2008 1:31:55 PM PST by Chief Engineer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1408 | View Replies]

To: Emmett McCarthy
That is probably right what you have stated here, the only thing that could be a little different is they may say, in the next election cycle ‘we will have identified a process to assure ALL Americans that their candidate's are Constitutionally eligible. . .’ It is my opinion that at this late date should there be an actual discrepancy proven beyond doubt with a birth certificate with proceedings to unseat the President-elect that people would take to the streets with rioting, property damage, and on and on. . . But, after that is quelled to a point our society would be forever split, we really would be a divided nation with serious on going problems.
1,413 posted on 11/16/2008 1:32:55 PM PST by Con_sarah_tive
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Chief Engineer

Do you or does anyone know if there are any actual records of either marriage or divorce of Stanley Anne Dunham and B. Obama Sr? Or if they can be viewed by the public?

I’ve never seen any actual records referred to or spocked...(seen, looked at).

If there are actual records of marriage or filings for divorce or granting of same, that would certainly fill in some of the time line.


1,414 posted on 11/16/2008 1:36:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1383 | View Replies]

To: Con_sarah_tive

Obumpa


1,415 posted on 11/16/2008 1:37:35 PM PST by hoosiermama (Berg is a liberal democrat. Keyes is a conservative. Obama is bringing us together already!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1413 | View Replies]

To: thesetruths
You said it happened "recently:"

Actually it was reported on TV recently, the way it was played made it easy to assume it was from last weeks meeting. I have posted elsewhere to you the source of the story, and include the link below again.

I can not testify, that they are the absolute truth, but I can't say that about nearly all printed news, or comments.

Link to PoliticalWire As you said quote was from Obamas book

1,416 posted on 11/16/2008 1:37:38 PM PST by itsahoot (We will have world government. Whether by conquest or consent. Looks like that question is answered)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1407 | View Replies]

To: thesetruths; itsahoot

Kind of odd for GWB to tell Obama (or anyone) that Keyes is a “piece of work” which is a very insulting thing to call anyone.


1,417 posted on 11/16/2008 1:38:44 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1388 | View Replies]

To: little jeremiah

It is only Obama’s word as to what happened.

I will let you be the judge of that.


1,418 posted on 11/16/2008 1:40:02 PM PST by thesetruths
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1417 | View Replies]

To: thesetruths

Just so I understand, and thanks for the further explanation, Obama is quoting GWB as saying the “piece of work” comment referring to Keyes. There is no actual audio of Bush saying it.

If that is the case, I am sure Obama is lying as that does not sound like Bush at all.


1,419 posted on 11/16/2008 1:40:29 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1392 | View Replies]

To: Chief Engineer; bvw
This thread and maybe others like it (on topic) at FR, have the makings of the massive shuttle thread where posters, I swear, beat the NASA accident investigators to the punch. Of course, Freepers had no bounds and took every liberty possible, to reach the conclusion of what brought the ship down. Every conceivable scenario was turned inside out, and only after surviving the onslaught and scrutiny of esteemed Freeper colleagues, were facts allowed to stand. As bad of a candidate as John McCain was, he had the following message right: “Fight! Fight for your country!”
1,420 posted on 11/16/2008 1:43:24 PM PST by freepersup (!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1412 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 1,381-1,4001,401-1,4201,421-1,440 ... 2,501-2,502 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson