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To: Chief Engineer

Do you or does anyone know if there are any actual records of either marriage or divorce of Stanley Anne Dunham and B. Obama Sr? Or if they can be viewed by the public?

I’ve never seen any actual records referred to or spocked...(seen, looked at).

If there are actual records of marriage or filings for divorce or granting of same, that would certainly fill in some of the time line.


1,414 posted on 11/16/2008 1:36:51 PM PST by little jeremiah (Leave illusion, come to the truth. Leave the darkness, come to the light.)
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To: little jeremiah

There have been no records found of a marriage and it has been said that Ann filed for divorce in 1964 using the grounds of “mental suffering” the only grounds used at that time. According to the story Sr signed the papers for the divorce while he was still at Harvard in 1964, shortly before he returned to Kenya. Perhaps Ann filed for divorce simply to resolve matters such as custody.The only divorce records others have found for Ann are for her divorce from Lolo which she filed in 1980. That divorce was never finalized until 1988 one year after Lolo died. “Official stories” have Sr returning to Kenya in 1965 but he actually returned to Kenya in 1964. One article I read also mentioned that because Sr was vocal about the government of Kenya he was stripped of his passport in late 1969. That brings up yet another question, namely what passport did Sr use to travel to Hawaii in 1971? By then he was divorced from his 3rd wife, Ruth, the other American he had married.


1,424 posted on 11/16/2008 1:49:59 PM PST by Chief Engineer
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To: little jeremiah

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/elig_vrcc.html

From the Hawaiian Department of Health website:

Who is Eligible to Apply for Certified Copies of Vital Records?

A certified copy of a vital record (birth, death, marriage, or divorce certificate) is issued only to an applicant who has a direct and tangible interest in the record. The following persons are considered to have such an interest:

*the registrant (the person whom the record is concerned with);
*the registrant’s spouse;
*the registrant’s parent(s);
*a descendant of the registrant (e.g., a child or grandchild);
*a person having a common ancestor with the registrant (e.g., a sibling, grandparent, aunt/uncle, or cousin);
*a legal guardian of the registrant;
*a person or agency acting on behalf of the registrant;
*a personal representative of the registrant’s estate;
*a person whose right to obtain a copy of the record is established by an order of a court of competent jurisdiction;
*adoptive parents who have filed a petition for adoption and need to determine the death of one or more of the prospective adopted child’s natural or legal parents;
*a person who needs to determine the marital status of a former spouse in order to determine the payment of alimony;
*a person who needs to determine the death of a nonrelated co-owner of property purchased under a joint tenancy agreement; and
*a person who needs a death certificate for the determination of payments under a credit insurance policy.

If you are not able to establish a direct and tangible interest in the record, you are ineligible and will not be issued a certified copy of the record.

Upon request, a letter of verification attesting to the existence of a requested record on file with the Department of Health may be issued. Instructions for applying for letters of verification are included in the next section and immediately follow the set of instructions on applying for certified copies. The same eligibility requirements apply for both ceritified copies and verification letters.

A search of the records on file with the Department of Health will only be conducted to process an application requesting either a certified copy or a letter of verification. If the search establishes that the requested record is not on file, you will be notified that no record has been found. No searches of the records on file with the Department of Health will be conducted prior to or outside of the receipt of an application and payment of fees.

http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/vital-records/elig_vrcc.html


1,434 posted on 11/16/2008 2:15:41 PM PST by freepersup (!)
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