Posted on 11/14/2008 7:05:09 PM PST by solfour
The California secretary of state should refuse to allow the state's 55 Electoral College votes to be cast in the 2008 presidential election until President-elect Barack Obama verifies his eligibility to hold the office, alleges a California court petition filed on behalf of former presidential candidate Alan Keyes and others.
The legal action today is just the latest is a series of challenges, some of which have gone as high as the U.S. Supreme Court, over the issue of Obama's status as a "natural-born citizen," a requirement set by the U.S. Constitution.
WND senior reporter Jerome Corsi even traveled to Kenya and Hawaii prior to the election to investigate issues surrounding Obama's birth. But his research and discoveries only raised more questions.
The biggest question is why Obama, if a Hawaii birth certificate exists, simply hasn't ordered it made available to settle the rumors.
(Excerpt) Read more at worldnetdaily.com ...
All of this shows that the American people are truly incapable of self-government.
You apply for a job which requires that you be at least 18 - its the law for that job. If the employer(s) request to see valid proof of your birthdate, and you refuse, hire lawyers to tell them that they don't have any right to see the proof, and instead of providing a copy you have two workers say yep, we saw his birth certificate, so just take his word for it that it is OK. Do you think the employer(s) should say - aw heck, it must be fine since he said he was 18 and two others said he had a birth certificate - even though I may be sued and prosecuted for hiring this guy if he is under 18, I should take his word for it. Don't think so.
Wouldn't you think something was ‘fishy’ because he refuses to present the documentation?
OK, in this case, we have a case where obviously he had quadruple citizenship - British because British law says that the father bestows citizenship to his offspring. Kenyan because when Kenya became independent and British citizenship to Kenyans transferred automatically. Indonesian by adoption and maybe American, but only IF the birth was physically in Hawaii - however there is question as to even that as his underage teen mother was not old enough at his birth to bestow her citizenship, but all this would be documented in the vault copy of the original certificate that was filed - witnessed by the attending physician and recorded at the hospital.
Take a few minutes and read the Constitution - ask yourself why would the founders have grandfathered the status of those living at the time of the Constitution - it is because they had been British subjects and in some cases French until the founding of America having held more than one allegiance and citizenship - something they knew should not occur in the future as a safeguard to our Union.
So, WHY would he squander thousands and thousands of dollars to avoid showing the documentation? If the answer is not that he is hiding something, then we must accept that he is a lunatic spendthrift to whom money is just a toy. Does ANY of this make sense to you?
That will get your head spinning!!!
Exactly.
Ever town gossips, so how come, no one has found out the neighbors to be interviewed regarding what they have remembered?
Who actually saw Ann Dunham pregnant?
When exactly was she pregnant?
Where did she live with her infanct baby, Barry?
Someone has to know something, the silence from Hawaii is eerie!
In my last post 908 I was replying to Aurorales about pa mom's discussion. I went to bed after that, but I checked this morning and I see she kept up the lame attempt to ignore our side of the issue.
And she never did reply to my last post to her asking her to give one rationale reason Obama wouldn't just let everyone see the certificate now. But I didn't miss anything. Hardly any of her reasons were rational.
I remember watching Keyes debate Obama back in 2004. Keyes basically destroyed Obama in the debate. Unfortunately, the race decided long before the debate.
Holding the parties accountable for determining who can serve as President may not be a Constitutional issue because the parties do not offer this direct choice to the voters. The parties only offer the voters the choice of electors to the electoral college. I think this is why Berg was not considered to have had standing.
"notice how Dean quietly slips off the scene unnoticed."
Excellent observation!
“Alan Keyes is no slouch:
Keyes campaigned for the Republican nomination in 2000.
He finished 3rd in Iowa, with 14 percent.
He debated John McCain and George W. Bush; “Polls on many television stations went as far as declaring Keyes the “clear winner” of the debates.”
In Utah, Keyes received 20 percent of the vote.”
Yes, and I voted for Keyes in the Florida primary. I knew GW Bush would win Florida and wanted Keyes to be VP. Not that I didn’t like Cheney, I love him. But at the time I sure didn’t think Cheney would be VP and really did like Alan Keyes. Keyes does know our Constitution and is certainly pro-life!
Well think about it, it doesn’t seem that long ago the only thing we heard from the left and drive-by media was how the FEDS “failed to connect the dots” when it came to 9-11...
now we’re hearing just 7 years later that all that bureaucracy has been resolved?
“I haven’t had a chance to go through all 1,000 + posts yet but I am sure by now someone has brought up the fact that Judge Souter has given obobzo a Dec 1 deadline to produce a valid BC,we shall see.”
That is what I thought also, that Obama has to produce a valid original birth certificate by Dec.1. But read later that Obama must “respond by Dec.1”. That means he could just respond with a motion to delay or dismiss. Someone please correct me if I am wrong and he ACTUALLY MUST PRODUCE the birth certificate by Dec.1st. Anyone??
The presiding court already punted this and, sadly, there is no way that any other court is going to get involved. I don’t see how this causes a “constitutional crisis”, it’s been in crisis for years. The 2nd and 4th Amendments barely exist anymore.
The original World Net article also reads that there was a candidate once declared ineligible for being only 34 years old and not 35+. Not you but everyone should read that original article as well.
Plenty of people care, but the news media reports that people only give a crap about their TVs and iPods, the goobermint officials pick up on it, and that’s how they drive policy. The news media refuses to report truthfully that people are mad as hell about a lot of things. They create this weird bizzarro world that they and their DC politician friends live in.
The only people who ever seem to come forward with any memories of Baby Obambi, his mother or his father are Kenyans, living in Kenya at the time. Fancy that!
Freeper Detective Freepersup coming on watch at 0918CST. The following postings will contain information from the Hawaii Assessor on the subject B.H.O’s. birth announcement address.
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