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1 posted on 10/25/2008 11:45:25 AM PDT by WmShirerAdmirer
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

focus people.

im actually glad this is over so we can focus on real silver bullets to take this clown obambi out..


2 posted on 10/25/2008 11:47:44 AM PDT by DrHannibalLecter
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Berg has got to be aN Obama plant to cover up stuff that would hurt Obama. He is a DEMOCRAT!!!


3 posted on 10/25/2008 11:47:45 AM PDT by screaminsunshine
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

This makes it more suspicious than ever.


4 posted on 10/25/2008 11:48:11 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (THE NEW MILLIONAIRES CLUB : YOUR FRIENDLY NIEGHBORHOOD CONGRESSMEN)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

“Lacked standing”???? WTF does that mean?


5 posted on 10/25/2008 11:48:17 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Coverup! We all have status.


6 posted on 10/25/2008 11:48:46 AM PDT by golfisnr1 (Democrats are like roaches - hard to get rid of.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer; Gemsbok; samantha; WakeUpAndVote

Ping!


7 posted on 10/25/2008 11:49:08 AM PDT by seekthetruth
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
So I ask again: Who has Standing to Challenge a Dubious Citizen Seeking the Presidency?

And while I'm asking questions, where did the notion of standing come from anyway?

ML/NJ

8 posted on 10/25/2008 11:49:26 AM PDT by ml/nj
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Philly’s another town with big shoulders.


12 posted on 10/25/2008 11:54:32 AM PDT by RGPII (No O-bortions!)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Did anybody really think that ANY federal judge would take it upon himself to disqualify the Dem presidential candidate off the ballot?


31 posted on 10/25/2008 12:04:53 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 ("In a time of universal deceit, telling the truth is a revolutionary act." -- George Orwell)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

I’m not surprised but Surrick could have made this call 30 seconds after he received the case.


41 posted on 10/25/2008 12:22:29 PM PDT by Ben Hecks (North Korea and Cuba both have great "Share the Wealth" programs)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
There are about two dozen cases in which courts determined that candidates (or even elected officials) were not qualified to hold certain public offices. In almost all cases, those were candidates for local offices or state legislatures, who were required to live within the boundaries of their district.

There is at least one case, however, in southern California, where the candidate/office holder was running for reelection when it was established that she was an illegal alien, with no right even to register to vote, much less to run for public office.

The problem with amateurs in election law bringing cases like this is they do not know and use the prior cases which demonstrate how to establish jurisdiction in a way that the trial court cannot deny it. Of course, any judge wants a case like this to go away without having to decide it. That's exactly why the case has to be set up properly from the get-go.

Berg blew it, and gave the judge an opening to throw the case out. IMHO. I hope the case is better handled when it is filed in all states that Obama wins, to obtain a court order that his Presidential Electors cannot vote for him because he is not qualified to be elected President.

These things are relatively simple. But you've got to KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING.

Congressman Billybob

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The Declaration, the Constitution, parts of the Federalist, and America's Owner's Manual, here.

50 posted on 10/25/2008 12:45:09 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.AmericasOwnersManual.com)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

A far more likely path to get the issue into Court would be a suit by a State Secretary of State seeking a Declaratory Judgment as to whether he can properly certify Obama’s candidacy and electors on the November ballot. That should take care of the Standing Issue. A slightly weaker but still possible method might be a suit in Mandamaus, to compel the Secretary of State to determine Obama’s eligibility, etc..


51 posted on 10/25/2008 12:46:35 PM PDT by Ohioan
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
"So, who does have standing? According to the Hon. R. Barclay Surrick, that's completely up to Congress to decide."

The Purpose of the Constitution is to limit the government.

If only the government can determine if its been breached then the Constitution become only a piece of useless paper.

53 posted on 10/25/2008 12:50:55 PM PDT by NoLibZone (As insane as McCain is , my principles can't allow someone like Huessein to be president.)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
"OBAMA, NO MERCI BEAUCOUP"
55 posted on 10/25/2008 12:54:35 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: WmShirerAdmirer
What is Obama hiding?

This question needs to go viral -- use the link and write a couple of emails -- take a minute:


What is Senator Obama hiding?  Why the lawyers?  If Obama is eligible to occupy the Office of the President of the United States of America, let him present the vault copy of his birth certificate to prove it and end all the speculation.

E-Mail addresses for your elected representatives, talk shows, the media, and even write letters to the editor -- email your friends -- comment at your favorite blogs and forums -- demand an answer!
63 posted on 10/25/2008 1:43:11 PM PDT by Beckwith ('Typical White Person')
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Regarding standing, how can the court say that a voter does not have standing when we, the people, are the government (“of the people, by the people and for the people”)? When “We the People of the United States” form our government and Amendment X plainly states that, “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people,” who does have standing? If I am not mistaken, the power to vette is not delineated in the Constitution, thereby reserving that power to the States or the people.


71 posted on 10/25/2008 3:15:26 PM PDT by bonnieblue4me (You can put lipstick on a donkey (or a dimrat), but it is still an ass!)
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To: WmShirerAdmirer

Berg a Hillary supporter meets standing.

Obama won against Hillary.


72 posted on 10/25/2008 4:08:41 PM PDT by NoLibZone (As insane as McCain is , my principles can't allow someone like Huessein to be president.)
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If, through the political process, Congress determines that citizens, voters, or party members should police the Constitution’s eligibility requirements for the Presidency, then it is free to pass laws conferring standing on individuals like Plaintiff. Until that time, voters do not have standing to bring the sort of challenge that Plaintiff attempts to bring in the Amended Complaint.

What the hell? So is this judge effectively saying Congress would have to let an unqualified candidate get elected, then impeached and removed for the matter to be resolved? He's saying a legal voter has no standing because congress didn't specifically grant it?

That's a distressing legal view.

While I'm puzzled over varying recollections of which hospital Barry was born in and Kenyan relatives claim he was born there, and there may have been some "fraud" by his family in filling out school papers, the birth certificate produced by the campaign appears to be a legitimate certified copy from the state of HI. That doesn't mean it's an actual physical replication of the original as if from printed from microfilm or Xeroxed. It's clearly a new document printed on a modern form from 2001 (as noticed on the bottom left). I don't find this unusual.

73 posted on 10/25/2008 4:55:21 PM PDT by newzjunkey (CA: YES on PROP 4. *** MCCAIN-PALIN ***)
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