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BREAKING: SCOTUS Sides With Brunner
Fox News ^ | 10/17/08 | Fox News

Posted on 10/17/2008 8:52:19 AM PDT by careyb

Just breaking now. Waiting on link.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: election; electionpresident; judiciary; scotus; votefraud
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To: austinaero
Hmm,,, you may have hit on something there. US taxpayers apparently fund ACORN somehow (thanks to Congress)...then US taxpayers will be paying for the messes ACORN makes and all the litigation around them. Wonder if we can make it a money issue?

Is there any reason it shouldn't be a money issue? Why do we have to keep paying to deal with this crap at the last minute, over and over again?

141 posted on 10/17/2008 9:40:24 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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To: diamond6
42 USC Sec.15511 TITLE 42 - THE PUBLIC HEALTH AND WELFARE CHAPTER 146 - ELECTION ADMINISTRATION IMPROVEMENT SUBCHAPTER IV - ENFORCEMENT

Sec. 15511. Actions by the Attorney General for declaratory and injunctive relief

The Attorney General may bring a civil action against any State or jurisdiction in an appropriate United States District Court for such declaratory and injunctive relief (including a temporary restraining order, a permanent or temporary injunction, or other order) as may be necessary to carry out the uniform and nondiscriminatory election technology and administration requirements under sections 15481, 15482, and 15483 of this title.

(Pub. L. 107-252, title IV, Sec. 401, Oct. 29, 2002, 116 Stat. 1715.)

The U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL has standing to bring an action to enforce Section 15483, which is the provision of the Help America Vote Act that the Ohio GOP tried to enforce.

So WHERE is the Bush Department of Justice? Asleep at the switch??

142 posted on 10/17/2008 9:41:49 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Great Catch!

Thanks for the info. I think you’re exactly right.

Looking at the decision again, I think the SCOTUS is making clear that somebody else has to file this.

There will be a refiling soon.


143 posted on 10/17/2008 9:44:41 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

Bush clearly wants McCain and the Republicans to lose this year. I can draw no other conclusion because the silence out of the justice department is deafening on too many critical issues.


144 posted on 10/17/2008 9:48:02 AM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: diamond6
I think the SCOTUS is making clear that somebody else has to file this. There will be a refiling soon.

Not unless the DOJ decides to get involved. I read the opinion to indicate that NO private litigant would have standing to enforce the Act.

145 posted on 10/17/2008 9:49:47 AM PDT by SirJohnBarleycorn
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To: Arizona Carolyn

He wants no such thing. It’s just incompetence.


146 posted on 10/17/2008 9:50:28 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn

And who do you think has authority over the Attorney General?


147 posted on 10/17/2008 9:51:20 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: pieces of time

Problem is now with this there is a good chance the value of our vote will be at best diluted and at worst invalidated.

A tea party will count, be seen and heard.

If this election goes down with as much fraud as they are reporting it will be the end of talking.

We will need to take our country back.

Only 13% of Americans support income redistribution, 84% do not support it.

We cannot allow a group like Obama/Pelosi/Reid/Dodd/Frank/Murtha/Franken who represent at most 10-13% of our country to hijack and destroy America and exactly what it stands for.


148 posted on 10/17/2008 9:52:56 AM PDT by surfer
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To: surfer
Once people get a taste of true socialism, the Dems won't be in power long. If Obama does get in and Congress and he go wild there will be an voter uprising. We just need a goo man in the wings to pick up the torch....Mike Pence?
149 posted on 10/17/2008 10:04:00 AM PDT by pieces of time
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To: rightinthemiddle

Just curious. If we were invaded, would you bear arms? It’s awful to go about looking to shoot someone, but there have been times that men with consciences and souls found it necessary.
And some of them have been very young. You know, that time of life when everything’s so black/white.


150 posted on 10/17/2008 10:14:21 AM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: pieces of time
Once people get a taste of true socialism, the Dems won't be in power long. If Obama does get in and Congress and he go wild there will be an voter uprising. We just need a goo man in the wings to pick up the torch....Mike Pence?

Republicans need to concentrate on establishing local foundations, and taking control of state legislatures. There is going to be very little we can do to stop things on the national level for the moment so we are probably better off letting the Democrats go hog-wild and overreaching like they always do and work on making sure that the reformation of the Republican party is done by people who love Reagan and that the LOSERS do not keep control of party levers.

This is much like British Tories after Thatcher. They rebuilt from the local council up.
151 posted on 10/17/2008 10:16:00 AM PDT by Arkinsaw
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To: 668 - Neighbor of the Beast

Are you kidding? I bear arms NOW, and have since I was old enough to hold a shotgun. I also have a permit to carry. I refuse to be someone’s victim.


152 posted on 10/17/2008 10:32:24 AM PDT by Hanna548
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To: Arkinsaw

Good plan, providing our votes are worth the paper they are written on.


153 posted on 10/17/2008 10:34:32 AM PDT by Hanna548
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To: diamond6

>>If GOP doesn’t have standing, we better find someone who does - and quick.<<

I thought that today is the last day in OH anyone can challenge voter registrations, so even if they refile and win, and Brunner gives the lists to the election boards, it may be too late.


154 posted on 10/17/2008 10:50:31 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

That’s what a TRO is for. There will be one filed today.


155 posted on 10/17/2008 11:01:58 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: diamond6
Actually, I was wrong. The deadline to challenge voter registrations was 2 days ago. Link:

While the bottom line may not be known until Election Day, Wednesday was the deadline for filing mass voter challenges in Ohio. That deadline comes two days before a federal appeals court ordered the Brunner staff to turn over records that theoretically could be used to challenge the voting credentials of tens of thousands of Ohioans -- if the Ohio Republican Party chose that course.

156 posted on 10/17/2008 11:13:07 AM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (I want to "Buy American" but the only things for sale made in the USA are politicians)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

I still don’t think it’s too late.

We need to bombard the US AG’s office NOW! Hit them with emails like crazy, telling them we want to file an action and get a TRO now.


157 posted on 10/17/2008 11:16:50 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: SirJohnBarleycorn; All
You have gotten right to the heart of the matter. The press has gotten it wrong.

The Supreme Court has ruled, on an emergency basis, that the trial court and therefore the Circuit Court had no power to rule that the Ohio Secretary of State was violating the law. They did so because they said that "private parties," such as the Ohio GOP, had no right to come to court to enforce the law.

What the SC did NOT do is agree with the SecofSt of Ohio that she was right to allow massive vote fraud to occur right under her nose, and do nothing about it. As I read the Opinion, the Attorney General of the US could, and should, act immediately to seek the same relief that the Ohio GOP did in the original filing.

I ask that you, or others, who are participating in the threads on this issue would repost this comment of mine into other threads. Since I am one of the Freepers who has sought, and obtained, emergency relief in the Supreme Court. So, what I've said here might be useful to others.

I am leaving shortly to travel to a funeral out of state, so I will not be available to participate in the discussions. I hope these comments are useful here and on the other threads.

Cordially,

Congressman Billybob

Latest article, "Whatever Is True and Honest...."

The Declaration, the Constitution, parts of the Federalist, and America's Owner's Manual, here.

158 posted on 10/17/2008 11:26:23 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.theacru.org)
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To: Congressman Billybob

“What the SC did NOT do is agree with the SecofSt of Ohio that she was right to allow massive vote fraud to occur right under her nose, and do nothing about it. As I read the Opinion, the Attorney General of the US could, and should, act immediately to seek the same relief that the Ohio GOP did in the original filing.”

That’s what I keep on saying!

We need to bombard the AG’s office with emails NOW!!!

Is anybody listening?


159 posted on 10/17/2008 11:28:54 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: diamond6

Here it is:

AskDOJ@usdoj.gov.

Go to it, please.


160 posted on 10/17/2008 11:41:17 AM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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