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Why I believe McCain CLEARLY won tonight-an analysis
10-17-2008 | Savvyguy

Posted on 10/15/2008 8:32:46 PM PDT by savvyguy

Not the first 2, but tonight!

As one with experience in TV debate, I try to be objective about this.

Obama is on defense though the night, stuttering much more than previous, notice?

McCain went after BO much more than other way around McCain is smiling, relaxed, while O is nervous

ABC & CBS both had focus groups, and I was happy to see in both groups, one lean more towards O, but 3 more McCain! McCain is rebutting EVERY point brought up, an improvement

McCain score points on Education (not throwing more $, vouchers), Health Care, (Mandate vs choice), tax (not spreading around wealth, class warfare, we #2 corporate tax, no one should pay more taxes now), oil drill he’s opposed, notice Obama’s eloquence,”we could LOOK AT” drilling. That was funny!), programs you will cut (Obama bombed out! McCain point out O’s pork)

Best McCain's lines /moments

"I am not Bush, ..you should have run against him…” Smart! He said he was going to debate me in town hall, any time…, O spent MORE $ in negative Ads than anyone..I can prove it!”

“Your point of standing up against your (Demorat) leader isn’t very convincing!”

He gave $830,000 to ACORN, he had political party ay Ayer’s home… facts are facts. Record is record!” Biden got weird policy ideas. Voted against Gulf war, want divide up Iraq”

“Notice O talk about government , spending, why do we always have to spend MORE $?” “Runaway spending must be brought under control!” He sounds like he believes it. “O’s idea of raising taxes in hard times…” “We got too MUCH government, into health care?”

Obama’s best moments- McCain’s criticism of my taxing $42,000…. Been pointed out wrong by even FOX…” Smart! McCain said,” If we talk about economy, we’d lose”

McCain won argument on Columbia, abortion, on how many years you can stop our dependency on Foreign oil (7 vs 10 years)

Obama’s lie- Buffet, Lugar…these are people who shaped my life” (What about Frank Davis, Rev. Wright?)

Missed opportunity

McCain blew it not nailing O as trainer for ACORN, teaching thugs to shake down banks.

ACORN & O had a CLOSE relationship,massive voter fraud has TAINTED this ELECTION already...

O & company caused credit mess”

“Ayers is just tip of the iceberg, long list of leftist pals besides Ayers”

McCain should have nailed O on his pr-union vote in Illinois, stifle school improvement

McCain answered Q on VP much better than O.

From debate standpoint O make repeated mistakes in ALL 3 debates by saying,” I agree with Sen. McCain”

Closing statement, both did okay, but I feel McCain could have done a better job!

No knock out punch and McCain really need one, but he hits & jabs O many times, O is wobbling, I would not be surprised this will result in 2-3% increase towards McCain within 3 days.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: 2008debates; bloggersandpersonal; chat; debate; election; mccain; obama; vanity; vanitypalooza; vanityrepublic; yetanothervanity
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To: KingofZion
it’s pretty depressing to see this shaping up as the worst election for the GOP since 1972

Ah yes, 1972, the year that gave us President McGovern.

61 posted on 10/15/2008 8:54:19 PM PDT by T. Buzzard Trueblood (Odinga is the new Ayers.)
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To: TCats

I thought he clearly won the first two debates also, but the
Senator teflon eloquence makes black white and white black. Bottomline is whether the polls move in Juan’s favor. He won if he narrows the gap he lost if Barak continues to
widen the gap.


62 posted on 10/15/2008 8:55:10 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: RightFighter

I started laughing when McCain called him “Senator Government”. McCain and Palin need to run with it. The regular folks are pretty pissed at the government. DEFEAT SENATOR GOVERNMENT!!!


63 posted on 10/15/2008 8:55:21 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: KingofZion
As much as I hate to admit it, I believe you to be correct. Now, maybe I'll be proven wrong and the polls will shift wildly, but I dunno, the GOP brand just ain't so hot right now. It's really not all McCain's fault either. When “compassionate conservatism” (a.k.a. Big Government) showed up on the scene and it was from the GOP, it was just a matter of time before the D's took back power. We got tricked into fighting on their turf and you just can never out promise or out spend a liberal, though Bush tried.

Unless something dramatic happens to change course, it's back to the wilderness for the GOP for quite a while.

64 posted on 10/15/2008 8:55:40 PM PDT by mek1959
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To: 38special

I agree the post-debate “thoughts” were opposite my opinions. I was dumbfounded. I thought McCain did well. I didn’t expect him to land any punches — seems that’s not his style. Maybe McCain’s steady drip, drip, drip onto Obama’s so-called bonfire will show us Obama’s really just a mere flashlight in the darkness and not a beacon of hope ala Reagan and Palin.


65 posted on 10/15/2008 8:56:04 PM PDT by Snapping Turtle (Slow down and get a grip!)
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To: Shaker_Cuda

Oh, yeah, I forgot! LOL
I like that line! Not bad for an old guy.


66 posted on 10/15/2008 8:56:37 PM PDT by savvyguy
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To: cincinnati65

I missed that, I was listening in car most of time, till last 30 minutes when I got home.


67 posted on 10/15/2008 8:57:30 PM PDT by savvyguy
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To: Shaker_Cuda

Really, when was this?


68 posted on 10/15/2008 8:57:36 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: wolf24

Joe the plumber is a game changer. Not tomorrow but in the next two weeks. I know for all of us it was simple and overstated but the sad thing is we are in the hands of people who are so clueless they don’t have a core set of values and thus a political outlook. These people are scared and silly and easily swayed to whoever promises them cover from the storm. Here is the thing the majority of Americans are employed by guys like Joe the plumber. I think they will get this narrative.


69 posted on 10/15/2008 8:57:39 PM PDT by Pacothecat
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To: MurryMom
It was a tough night for you and the rest of the Obama CULT.

Are they handing out extra KOOL AID tonight ?
Have they handing out the pills early for Election night yet ?

70 posted on 10/15/2008 8:57:42 PM PDT by ncalburt
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To: Canedawg

Go for it. Which ever you think is best.

Thanks.


71 posted on 10/15/2008 8:58:16 PM PDT by JPII Be Not Afraid (McCain/Palin 08 - Evil triumps when good people do nothing!! - www.protestthemedia.com Oct 21st)
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To: woofie

subversive agent of “change”


72 posted on 10/15/2008 8:58:59 PM PDT by Operation_Shock_N_Awe (I'd rather be a conservative nut job than a liberal with no nuts and no job)
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To: savvyguy
Was there a knockout punch in any modern debate? I think it is really very hard to impossible to have the so called knock out punch in a debate.
73 posted on 10/15/2008 8:59:05 PM PDT by jveritas (Use the nuclear option against Obama: Jeremiah Wright)
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To: KoRn

Whomever would have thought McCain’s best debate would have been the one on domestic policy....

Hey, good point!


74 posted on 10/15/2008 8:59:27 PM PDT by savvyguy
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To: All
I don't think the media understands how significant we view the Freudian slip of Senator Government

It was the perfect analogy for Obama.

75 posted on 10/15/2008 8:59:58 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. FReerepublic,com baby)
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To: ROTB

Please ignore me. Your post was informative up until the arrogance of the last sentence.


76 posted on 10/15/2008 9:00:18 PM PDT by TCats
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To: savvyguy

The Fox News “All Stars” were PATHETIC!! John did GREAT tonight!!!


77 posted on 10/15/2008 9:02:00 PM PDT by Norman Bates (Freepmail me to be part of the McCain List!)
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To: MurryMom
Obama’s cool-cat demeanour exudes power.

Obama's demanour exudes(sic) used car salesman and attracts people the same way MLMs attract millions of suckers.

78 posted on 10/15/2008 9:03:20 PM PDT by mnehring
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To: Cicero

Oh I agree it was a slip and I really agree and wonder if even God HIMSELF could have gotten him to say anything as striking as that on purpose after dumbing himself down in the good ol boys Senatorial Club all these years... REACHING ACROSS THE ISLE!!!


79 posted on 10/15/2008 9:03:46 PM PDT by SierraWasp (Obama... Just another lying Commonist Communutty Organizing thug from the south side of Chicago!!!)
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To: OneWingedShark

I can’t quite remember exactly where it happened but he eventually did say it.

Maybe someone else can post a clip.


80 posted on 10/15/2008 9:04:31 PM PDT by Shaker_Cuda
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