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Presidential Debate #3 Live Thread - 9:00 Eastern
The Collective Wisdom of Free Republic ^ | 10/15/08 | TonyInOhio

Posted on 10/15/2008 2:02:46 PM PDT by TonyInOhio

Let's light this candle!



TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2008debates; antichrist; burqabama; crapforbrains; debate; election; fauxnews; iamwearingadiaper; jobamaobiden; keywordabuse; luntzsux; mccain; obama; obamabinbiden; oopsicrappedmypants; ostrichbrigade; senatordouchebag
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To: antceecee

YOU LIE!!!

You were not at the Carson City debates!

Uou are a troll out and out!!!


6,601 posted on 10/15/2008 10:53:56 PM PDT by Calif4Bush (Proud Moosehead)
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To: heatherlund

“I just sent an email to: comments@foxnews.com, hannity@foxnews.com, oreilly@foxnews.com and special@foxnews.com — to let them know how disgusted I was by their unfair and biased reporting tonight. McCain WON tonight and something is gravely WRONG with this picture.”

I sent them the following e-mail (I was on a roll and talked not only about tonight’s post-debate commentary, but about their “all star panel” too):

It is obvious that Fox Cable News has been intimidated by the veiled threat that Barack Obama made today about Fox News being biased against him. Thus, in your post-debate discussion it is apparent Fox felt it necessary to claim Obama won the debate and proceed to knock McCain for his debate performance. There was better treatment of McCain’s performance on CNN, NBC, and CBS tonite than on Fox News. What a bunch of sellouts you all were tonite. Fox News All Stars my derriere. It is the Fox News Sellouts. Even Brit Hume was a disappointment tonight. Or are you just all cowed by Obama and what his goon squads will do if they win the election. Afraid of the Fairness Doctrine? Afraid he’ll go after Murdoch’s business interests? Afraid for your jobs? Or, another way of putting it, are you a bunch of cowards? Sure appears that way.

What an embarrassment your commentary was tonight. McCain did the best job he has so far in the three debates. It was obvious to anyone making a fair assessment of tonight’s debate performance. He was good tonight. Obama held his own, but McCain was definitely and strongly getting his points across tonight. But you all felt the need to not just praise Obama’s performance, but to slam McCain’s. In particular Fred Barnes. I am so sick of Fred, and his arm crossing and uncrossing, his fidgeting, his scribbling on his notepad and I mean scribbling, not writing, his RINO propensities (Fred ain’t no conservative), and his constant slamming of what he claims to be his own Party.

Why don’t you get a couple of true conservatives on your panel. Krystol is not to be trusted at all (another RINO), and ever since he has started writing for the NYTimes, he has gotten more and more hostile to his own Party. Same thing happened to Ben Stein since he started working for the NYTs. And Krauthammer is basically a fiscal conservative and social liberal (which is a contradiction in terms in itself). I love to listen to Charles anyhow because he is quite brilliant and has some depth of thought, and I never considered him a conservative so I am pleasantly surprised when he says something reasonably conservative. But I do believe he is honest in his opinions. You should have Bill Sammon on your panel more often as he is the only one I believe to actually be a conservative in thought. Mort Kondracke (sp?) is a passive-aggressive moderate Dem and Moira Liason (sp?) is a nice lady who looks down all the time as she spews the Dem talking points and lies, because she knows they are lies. Plus, nice as she seems to be as a person, why do you keep her on, so that we are forced to listen to her frequent coughing spells because of her allergies? So we the listening public have to deal with someone who can’t do her job well because of her affliction? I feel sorry for her, but not to the point that you foist her medical problem off on the listening public. Listening to frequent coughing fits is not enjoyable. And Juan Williams, well he’s just Juan, and at least he amuses me. The bottom line here is that you need to get rid of some of the old deadwood from your panel, and get some fresh new faces in there, a couple of whom are actually truly conservative.

What we’ve got here is two major cable TV news stations that are totally liberal (CNN and MSNBC), and one that is at most half conservative. That means the conservative viewpoint has exactly one-half of a cable TV news station that speaks for them, and two and a half stations that parrots the liberal viewpoint. How totally discouraging. I guess we should be happy with the few bones thrown our way by Fox as it’s better than nothing at all. But after Fox jumped on the Obama bandwagon after the debate tonight, those bones have no meat on them at all. Now we are down to truly bare bones. Thanks Fox. At least I have the Internet. That is until Obama and the Fairness Doctrine gets us all. Too bad you are so intimidated and have thus capitulated to Obama’s veiled threat tactics. Greta inferred as much on her post-debate program tonight when she referenced what Obama had said and how Fox was reacting to it which was to bend to Obama’s will. How sad for all of us.


6,602 posted on 10/15/2008 10:54:10 PM PDT by flaglady47 (It's crunch time, folks.....)
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To: wastedyears

Fox is replaying it now........it should be repeated through the weekend........great show by McCain! our boy did good.


6,603 posted on 10/15/2008 10:55:29 PM PDT by tioga
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To: ari-freedom

“I think he did concede that embryonic research has failed while adult stem cell research is fruitful.”

Right. Charles is paralyzed, and like many who are (remember Christopher Reeves), he hopes for a miracle that will cure his paralysis. Thus he is for any research that might make this possible. I’m surprised he was objective enough, considering this, to concede that adult stem cell research is the better way to go.


6,604 posted on 10/15/2008 10:57:54 PM PDT by flaglady47 (It's crunch time, folks.....)
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To: Yaelle
Plugging the numbers Obama used in the debate for McCain's Health Care plan and the explanation of McCain's plan given here shows it works as follows:

McCain Health Care Plan animated

The quality isn't optimal as I only had tools/time/skill to make an animated gif of my concept and my software for that left a few smudged words. PLEASE, someone with better ability make this into a YouTube video or pass it along to McCain to make a commercial along this line. I'm going to mail it to Rush and Hannity, where it may or may not get noticed. McCain has a GREAT health care plan, but as Rush says it's hard to explain numbers with just words. I think average folks can understand something like this and I think it can fit into a 30 sec web or TV ad. Obama is hammering his health care lies. After people see this Viagra couldn't keep him up.

6,605 posted on 10/15/2008 11:00:08 PM PDT by JohnBovenmyer
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To: Sir Francis Dashwood
Autism is indeed a real issue. It is an x-linked genetic disorder. What triggers it is what remains to be discovered.

I have friends whose child was diagnosed (wrongly, it turns out; but everybody in their circle was suddenly reading up on autism). Here is one of the most interesting and thought-provoking articles I found on the state of autism understanding and possible origins.

6,606 posted on 10/15/2008 11:00:36 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The Word of God is powerful. That's why so many people are afraid to read it.)
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To: CaliforniaCon
"RE: “I’m also a California Conservative....and it seems everywhere I go I run into more conservatives than liberals..

Native Californian here!

The native Californians -- especially outside of the big cities -- are mostly Conservatives. But the transplants and the big city people -- Bay Areans, Los Angelenos -- are mostly Libs. Anywhere that can be yuppified, produces idiots. The rest of us produce the fruits of our labors and are Conservatives!

6,607 posted on 10/15/2008 11:03:46 PM PDT by Bokababe ( http://www.savekosovo.org)
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To: mplsconservative
Sorry about that. That strikes me as an extremely lame excuse. I have some very ill family members myself. I'm still able to post once in awhile in FOUR YEARS.

Shockingly insensitive.

6,608 posted on 10/15/2008 11:05:36 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The Word of God is powerful. That's why so many people are afraid to read it.)
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To: flaglady47

he’s still a...I wouldn’t say liberal but definitely doesn’t think like a conservative. See
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MmMxYmI5M2ExODZmMjllNmE1NzM2ODljYzU5ZWVkZjc=


6,609 posted on 10/15/2008 11:08:12 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Good job, Canada!)
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To: Mr. Jazzy
TY MJ!

6,610 posted on 10/15/2008 11:08:41 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: mplsconservative

you make it sound like there’s a Divine commandment to post to FR every so often.


6,611 posted on 10/15/2008 11:09:53 PM PDT by ari-freedom (Good job, Canada!)
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To: TXBlair; truthluva
"We are a family of small business owners as well. Obama will break small businesses..."
My family owns part of a small business, too. My brother (the manager) has already been having to weigh whom to let go if BO is elected. It's so sad.

I ran a business for 20+ years in Philadelphia. Once the Rendell machine took over, taxes skyrocketed, services declined, and 100,000 people left the tax base, including myself. It's Democratcy in action, folks, and what we would have to look forward to if the worse happens in November.

6,612 posted on 10/15/2008 11:10:35 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The Word of God is powerful. That's why so many people are afraid to read it.)
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To: sageb1

He did look stupid most of the debate. McCain came off very well and drove some main points home and had a smile most of the time to boot. What is going on with Foxnews? Hannity will set things aright tomorrow.


6,613 posted on 10/15/2008 11:11:02 PM PDT by fabian
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To: ntnychik
David Brooks said he couldn’t imagine America wanting to look at THAT (McCain) for four years, because he looked tight in the shoulders (Brooks imitated) while Obama looked loose. Now there’s an intellectual opinion!

I was horrified by Brooks tonight. It almost looked as if Mark Shields had been hoping for McCain to knock one out of the park and was concerned that he didn't; but Brooks just said, "He's probably going to lose." So much for one liberal and one conservative on the team. Brooks really has jumped the shark.

6,614 posted on 10/15/2008 11:13:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The Word of God is powerful. That's why so many people are afraid to read it.)
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To: ari-freedom

“he’s still a...I wouldn’t say liberal but definitely doesn’t think like a conservative.”

You must have missed what I said in another recent comment I made on this thread about Charles:

I love to listen to Charles anyhow because he is quite brilliant and has some depth of thought, and I never considered him a conservative so I am pleasantly surprised when he says something reasonably conservative. But I do believe he is honest in his opinions.


6,615 posted on 10/15/2008 11:14:10 PM PDT by flaglady47 (It's crunch time, folks.....)
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To: Niteflyr

I was one of those guys that worked the ranges and when I got over to Bishop I was very impressed. Mammoth was next with a couch in the back. The FORD QA buddy next to me was from Maine and he was equally in awe. You’re background from the area is something I would truly treasure.


6,616 posted on 10/15/2008 11:14:32 PM PDT by eyedigress ( My first 4 wheeler was on the rocks in Fairbanks)
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To: fabian

He did tonight, too.


6,617 posted on 10/15/2008 11:15:48 PM PDT by diamond6 (Is SIDS preventable? www.Stopsidsnow.com)
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To: sageb1
I’m going to teach anyone wearing an Obama mask on Halloween a lesson in redistributionism.

LOL! Steal their candy and redistribute it to all the other kids, keeping 35% (corporate tax rate) for "administrative costs."

6,618 posted on 10/15/2008 11:16:41 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (The Word of God is powerful. That's why so many people are afraid to read it.)
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To: heatherlund

Krauthammer was especially brutal to McCain. I’m about sick of him.


6,619 posted on 10/15/2008 11:17:36 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Bokababe

I’m not the poster who runs into more conservatives than liberals in So Cal. That quote was from someone else.

But...I’ve been in L.A. since age 4; moved here in 1953. So I do consider myself a native. And around L.A. there just aren’t many Republicans much less conservatives. There are a FEW around, of course, but we tend to keep quiet about our views. I should really consider moving to more of a “red” zone....


6,620 posted on 10/15/2008 11:18:20 PM PDT by CaliforniaCon
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