Posted on 09/22/2008 5:05:15 AM PDT by SkyPilot
Claim: Joe Biden is planning to step down from vice-presidential slot on the Democratic ticket in favor of Hillary Clinton.
Status: Undetermined
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/vpchange.asp
(Excerpt) Read more at snopes.com ...
“I don’t know about Obama, he just might be that dumb, but Hillary sure isn’t.”
Hillary is power-hungry, and there is absolutely nothing her voracious appetite will not devour in her pursuit of power. Nothing.
.” For rats, it is an understandable mistake,”
I think it would be played as a brilliant decision showing his ability to make tough decisions and his care for the people of the US.
The moment Obama puts Hillary on his ticket he is a walking dead man.
But I thought it was only a matter of minutes before McCain swapped Sarah for _______ _______.
Guess the elites were wrong again!
Not gonna happen, seriously. This is a rumor started in order to make Obama look bad.
Didn’t all candidates have to submit a physical before running? We have heard questions about the brief medical information Obama released. Sad that a doctor would not have picked up this “illness” in Biden. Will this be an example of the type of healthcare Obama wants Americans to have??
Hillary would not accept it. What’s the upside for her? If Obama loses, she looks like a phoney and a manipulator, and she loses the “You shouldda stuck with me” mantra. If she wins, she has to spend 8 years biting her tongue and saying “Yessir!”, by which time she will be 70 years old and the very image of old politics.
People aren’t actually voting for presidential and vice presidential candidates. They are voting for a slate of electors pledged to these candidates. If the electors don’t change, what would be the legal hurdles?
If true and they went on to win, it would give the country and the Dems more grief and disasters. On the other hand, Hillary has very high negatives as well which would mobilize an anti-Hillary vote. Would Americans really want Hillary, Obama, and Pelosi running the country? Running it into the ground?
“Eagleton was cut loose on August 1, we are 7 weeks past that point.
A few more states will open early voting prior to October 2, most of the remaining start 10-14 days out from election day.”
Once the ballots go out and the deadline has passed, each state decides for itself whether to reprint the ballots and how to count old ballots for BO/Biden as a vote for BO/Clinton.
In every state, it would involve a court battle. In an election this close, BO would have to win every single court battle in every swing state. Gore was willing to go for broke in FLA in 2000 because they knew the FLA supreme court was in his pocket. Same in NJ with Lautenberg/Torricelli.
I just don’t see the DNC letting BO bet the election on getting every swing state supreme court to order reprinting of the ballots etc. So my guess is Biden stays on the ballot unless he actually pops an aneurysm.
So there will be no virtual aneurysms in this election. Of course, it would not be the first time ModelBreaker was wrong :)
“I think it would be played as a brilliant decision showing his ability to make tough decisions and his care for the people of the US.”
Tom Brokaw. Bob Schieffer. Wolf Blitzer. Katie Couric.
Duh. :)
Immediately after McCain chose Palin as his running mate, the first question making the rounds was this: “How soon will it be before McCain dumps his VP choice?”>
Rush said, “That is the wrong question”, and proceeded to tell Greta (on FNC) what the real question out to be. I have excerpted the pertinent comments below made on two different days; September 3rd and September 5th:
We’re Running Against the Entire Washington Government Machine
September 3, 2008 http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_090308/content/01125106.member.html
“.....[The MSM] are trying to force her [Palin] off the ticket. I know how mad you people are, but I want to tell you, you tune into that convention tonight, to her speech tonight, and they better have those rafters reinforced at this convention hall tonight because they’re going to blow the roof. This crowd cannot wait to hear this woman.
This crowd wants to be involved in promoting, defending, and advancing the cause and the career of Sarah Palin. This crowd is going to do whatever it can to put her at ease, to make her feel welcome, and she’s up to the challenge here, and it’s going to be a fascinating night. She’s gotta be up to the challenge. I mean it is what it is. The media isn’t going to change. They’re getting worse. Some say they’re destroying themselves. I think they’ve been in the process of destroying themselves for a long time, but clearly there’s no journalism going on with what the Drive-Bys are doing. They’re just an opposition research branch of the Democrat Party. Their templates never change. ...But they’re trying to force her off the ticket.
There’s even online betting sites that you can visit, online prediction market weighing in on whether McCain will drop her from the Republican ticket.
I think once this gets going, and as I said yesterday once this hits full stride, the Barack Obama campaign’s going to realize what a loser choice it made in putting Joe Biden on the ticket, mark my words. There’s going to be a huge reversal of this by the time this all shakes out. But why are they trying to force her off the ticket? If she’s this big a trailer trash, and if she’s so inexperienced, why not leave her there? She should be easy to beat, right? Well, that’s the key. They’re scared to death of her. They are frightened like they haven’t been frightened in a long time. They thought they had succeeded in nullifying and eliminating the conservative wing of the Republican Party. They thought that they had succeeded in creating an impression among Americans at large that conservatism was in disfavor, that it was in a funk, that it was a minority, and here comes Palin, Sarah Palin just in her being, in her essence, simply destroys every myth and every lie that the liberals have told us that they want in women. Andrea Peyser today in the New York Post, great piece: “’A Time-Warped Sexist Assault’ ... But women on the left, who fought long and hard for the ability to raise children simultaneously with election cash, are in spasms. (Some have simply kept silent. Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton — where are you?) ... The stupendously sexist New York Times printed a front-page article noting that some unnamed women argue over ‘whether there are enough hours in the day for her to take on the vice presidency, and whether she is right to try.’” [end excerpt]
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Obama Turns to Hillary, Oprah, and NAGs to Counter Sarah Palin
September 5, 2008 http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_090808/content/01125107.member.html
RUSH: Look at this... Look at this, right here in the New York Times, the headline says it all: “Obama Camp Turns to Clinton to Counter Palin.”
Clinton campaign says, “I don’t think we can save you. I got campaigning and fundraising to do for Senate candidates.”
“....I was on Greta Van Susteren at Fox last night just after midnight, she’s been asking me all week, and I finally relented. ...but I told her, I said, “You know, the conventional wisdom here is never right, Greta, and I won’t be surprised if somewhere down the road it’s the Obama camp that thinks they need a new vice presidential running mate.”
“You really think they will just drop Biden?”
I said, “No, it won’t happen that way. There will be some tragic emergency that pops up or some such thing as that.” Everywhere you look, this guy, he needs Hillary to help him out.
This is in the New York Times: “Obama Camp Turns to Clinton to Counter Palin.” It says here that Obama will “increasingly lean on prominent Democrat women,” meaning the NAGs. Obama is going to go out and beg the NAGs to bail him out, including Oprah.
So now Obama’s gotta go out there and get the NAGs, and that’s really going to work, that’s falling right into our hands.
This is a rope-a-dope times two, to bring the NAGs out there to campaign against Sarah Palin. Hillary, they want Hillary to come to Florida on Monday. It says here, Obama was “dispatching Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton to Florida on Monday and bolstering his plan to deploy female surrogates—” i.e., NAGs, “—to battleground states.” By the way, NAGs for those of you new, National Association of Gals. Don’t misunderstand. We’re not making any other comment. We just think the National Organization for Women is bogus. They’re not an organization for women. How many members they got now, 125,000? They never have had more than 250,000, they never have spoken for the whole female population....
So Obama is going to dispatch Hillary. Nobody dispatches Hillary. Hillary is sitting in Chappaqua looking at the security cameras, the spy cameras, see where Bill’s been, all of a sudden gets a phone call from the Obama campaign, “We’re dispatching you to Florida.” “I’m not going to Florida, there’s a hurricane coming in down there and I’m not going to be it.”
“Mrs. Clinton’s campaign event in Florida, her first for Mr. Obama since the Democratic convention, will serve as a counterpoint to the searing attacks and fresh burst of energy that Ms. Palin—” it’s Mrs. Palin, New York Times, “—injected into the race with her convention speech on Wednesday, Obama aides said. With the McCain-Palin team courting undecided female voters—” Hey, who wrote this? Patrick Healy, Jeff Zeleny, you two guys gotta understand something: Sarah Palin courted us guys, too. Sarah Palin is courting Americans. We on the right, we don’t groupify everybody. We don’t do this identity politics stuff. I’ll tell you what, I knew Sarah Palin was talking straight to me when she was giving her speech. She was talking to Americans.
Now, let’s go to the second page of this story: “Advisers to Mrs. Clinton said that she stood ready to help the Obama-Biden ticket, but they urged the campaign not to overestimate the impact Mrs. Clinton could have.” So the Clinton campaign has told Obama, “Don’t think we can save you, buddy. Don’t count us.”
Clinton campaign advisors noted that “she had other commitments this fall, like campaigning and raising money for Senate candidates.” “Sorry, Obama, I may not be able to squeeze you in here. I gotta raise money for myself and for Senate candidates.” “Obama aides said the Clinton trip had been in the works before Ms. Palin was named the running mate.”
Yeah, right. Yeah, I’m buying that. So, they’re worried out there in Obama land. ...”
Read the Background Material... New York Times: Obama Camp Turns to Clinton to Counter Palin bttt
Or... Possible ingrown erection and he is screwing himself.
WADDA YA MEAN THEY LIE??? I have been told that my check is on the way.
Biden can’t have a brain aneurism. One has to have a brain for starters! :-)
I think Oblabma would come off looking like an idiot if he switched now; although NOTHING the Dimtwitocrats do surprises me, as it is simply another reflection of their lust for power and control over the rest of us, I think a switch like this would HIGHLIGHT his lack of experience (and the GOP would be all over it - it APPEARS that we have a team that is finally fighting back against the domestic enemy - unlike team Bush for the last seven years).
I think it would come across as Oblabma Hussein RUNNING back to Uncle Willie and Auntie Hillary and begging them to rescue him from Mean’ Ol’ Sarah and McCain The Most Evil...
IMHO, it do more damage than good - PUMAs notwithstanding. He’d pick up some of those votes, but there’s an awful lot of people who will turn out to vote against HER too.
But what the hell do I know??? In 2004, John F*ing Kerry told me I suffered from TFS Syndrome (Too F***ing Stoooooopid) for not getting his “subtle nuances” about how he betrayed us in the Vietnam War...along with the rest of the Dimtreasoncrats...
A solar eclipse is predictable: It will occur on a specific date. A political “choice” is just that, and cannot be disproved by anything.
Granted, this is likely - seeing how desperate the demo's - and how compliant the news media is in covering their stupidity and criminality - but still ....
Hillary has more than likely told Obama she's not interested in a number TWO position.
Her best hope to have a 2nd opportunity at a run for the presidency is for Obama to lose.
It's quite possible in 2012 it could be Palin against Clinton.
Time will tell.
I just got a chuckle outta any aneurysm being a dibilitating health prob for a brainless socialist in general and plugs in particular...
hell how many minions have actually dropped [specifically from brain diseases] in the last few years, and havent given up their seats of power ???
Although I really try to NOT to enjoy the swimmer teds illness, what kind of 'person', wealthy and in their golden years, would choose partisan bickering over living out their remaining days with their family/friends...???
It must really be a bitter and lonely existence...
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