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Coin found by Wrexham pensioner is 2,000 years old[UK]
Evening Leader ^ | 16 Sep 2008 | Evening Leader

Posted on 09/16/2008 6:39:52 AM PDT by BGHater

A ROMAN coin unearthed by a Wrexham metal detecting enthusiast has been confirmed as one of the oldest ever found in Wales.

Retired butcher Roy Page, 69, of Coedpoeth, found the detailed 2,000-year-old coin on a farm near St Asaph when he went on a search there with the Mold-based Historical Search Society earlier this year.

Roy gave the tiny silver coin, which depicts two horses being driven by a man on a chariot, to the Portable Antiquities Scheme (PAS), who have recently confirmed the specific date that it was made.

It is believed to have been brought over some time after the Roman invasion of Britain in 43 AD, or during earlier visits in the first century BC.

Roy said: "The PAS have now told me the date that the coin would have been used is about 150 BC, which I was really pleased about.

"I don't want to sell it because it is a piece of history and I am going to keep hold of it."

The coin found by Roy Page


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: chariot; charioteers; chariotrace; chariotracing; coin; coins; epigraphy; epigraphyandlanguage; ggg; godsgravesglyphs; language; metaldetecting; roman; romanempire; uk; unitedkingdom
Amazing, he found it only 6 inches deep in the soil.
1 posted on 09/16/2008 6:39:53 AM PDT by BGHater
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To: SunkenCiv

Roman coin find ping.


2 posted on 09/16/2008 6:40:46 AM PDT by BGHater (Democracy is the road to socialism.)
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To: BGHater

Cool beans. But Roman coins are very common. Still, a pre-empire coin in a place like Wales is especially cool.


3 posted on 09/16/2008 6:42:29 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: BGHater

It should have the quadriga chariot on the other side. I have that particular type of coin in my own collection...


4 posted on 09/16/2008 6:42:38 AM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: BGHater
The PAS have now told me the date that the coin would have been used is about 150 BC

I didn't think the Romans were there that early.

5 posted on 09/16/2008 6:44:12 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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To: BGHater

During the Roman occupation of Britain, I thought they really didn’t get into Wales that much. In other areas of England they are always finding Roman coins. I purchased a bunch up at Hadrian’s wall.


6 posted on 09/16/2008 6:47:51 AM PDT by Dudoight
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To: BGHater

cool! wish i could help look for more...


7 posted on 09/16/2008 6:53:10 AM PDT by devane617 (Fish died on his Harley when he hit a camel at dusk.)
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To: Dudoight

I was under the impression that Roman traders and merchants often went where Roman legionaries never trod.

I was also under the impression that Roman coins were often legal tender in places even the Romans barely knew existed.


8 posted on 09/16/2008 6:55:28 AM PDT by sinanju
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To: The G Man

Coins last a long time, and money gets around.


9 posted on 09/16/2008 6:56:14 AM PDT by swain_forkbeard (Rationality may not be sufficient, but it is necessary.)
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To: sinanju

I think you are correct. Who is to say that it wasn’t brought into Wales by someone who lost it traveling around Britain in any ensuing time between then and now!


10 posted on 09/16/2008 7:04:13 AM PDT by Dudoight
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“Roman coins were often legal tender in places even the Romans barely knew existed.”

Correct. Not because they were Roman, but because in ancient times no one cared who minted the coin; only its metal content and weight. If a certain mint's coinage was more preferred in some parts, it was because of the mint's reputation for metal purity and consistent weights.
This remained true up into the 19th century. The USA used foreign coins as legal tender for many years: the Spanish 8 Real (frequently cut into pie shaped wedges for change, hence: “2bits; 4bits; 6bits; a dollar” and “pieces of eight”) and the highly reputable German/Austrian Thaler, which is pronounced “Taller”, eventually becoming “Dollar.”

11 posted on 09/16/2008 7:29:23 AM PDT by ROLF of the HILL COUNTRY ( The Constitution needs No interpreting, only APPLICATION!)
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To: The G Man

Yup, the guy it said so right on the coin, 150 BC, gotta’ be the real deal.


12 posted on 09/16/2008 8:38:06 AM PDT by RetSignman (DEMSM: "If you tell a big enough lie, frequently enough, it becomes the truth")
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LOL!


13 posted on 09/16/2008 8:42:49 AM PDT by The G Man (The NY Times did "great harm to the United States" - President George W. Bush 6/26/06)
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2 horses being driven by a man in a chariot?

looks to me like an alien octopus wearing a darth vader helmet.

14 posted on 09/16/2008 8:42:58 AM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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well, it is a repeat, but I just took so much time finding the freakin’ topic that, just out of sheer orneriness (plus, in the process of the hunt I found a forgotten couple of other topics which also look interesting) I’m going to ping this one too. :’)

Metal detecting pensioner finds Wales’ oldest coin
Evening Leader | 20 February 2008 8:49 AM
Posted on 02/20/2008 3:46:01 PM PST by DeaconBenjamin
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15 posted on 09/16/2008 9:07:05 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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It looks like he really cleaned it.

I would guess that its a barbarous copy of a Roman Republican coin with a Victory in Biga reverse, because there's no inscription.

It should look more like this:

(I know this is a different coin. I don't have access to my references here at work. Bummer.)

16 posted on 09/16/2008 9:08:20 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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17 posted on 09/16/2008 9:09:06 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/_______Profile hasn't been updated since Friday, May 30, 2008)
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Cthulhu


18 posted on 09/16/2008 9:17:59 AM PDT by null and void (When you bang your forehead on the ground five times a day, you get brain damage.)
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To: null and void

g-d bless you.


19 posted on 09/16/2008 11:04:42 AM PDT by thefactor (contributing nothing of value to threads since 2001...)
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