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Found: Birth certificate for Obama in Kenya?
http://obamacrimes.com/attachments/016_Obama%20Complaint%20from%20Pacer.pdf ^

Posted on 09/14/2008 9:14:56 AM PDT by dascallie

Start reading at item 15

His paternal grandmother, half sister and half brother claim he was born in Kenya --and docs have been found that may support this, according to Berg's lawsuit.

http://obamacrimes.com/attachments/016_Obama%20Complaint%20from%20Pacer.pdf


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: africa; bc; bhusseinobama; birthcertificate; bo; certifigate; issues; kenya; nowayobama; obamafamily; obamaineligible
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To: voxitar
You don't say!~
201 posted on 09/14/2008 11:07:33 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: PapaBear3625
" If Obama is found ineligible, and ( IF ) the Dem ticket wins, then the Dem electors may select Biden, or the Dem party may instruct them otherwise. We might even get Hillary. "

There now, fixed.... don't want to scare anyone and give them a heart attack....lol
202 posted on 09/14/2008 11:08:43 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: dascallie

If any of this crap was actually true, you can bet your tukas Hillary would have already used it.


203 posted on 09/14/2008 11:08:51 AM PDT by Poser (Willing to fight for oil)
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To: Calpernia
Yes, the Obama Campaign submitted a COLB, which is a SHORT form that references that there is some type of information on file at the Hawaii Vital Statistics office; but blacked out the file number so no cross reference can be done on the Birth Certificate (the long form)

Look at the high-res pictures of Obama's COLB on factcheck.org...the file number is there, along with the raised seal...this is a losing battle. We can beat Obama on the issues, we don't need to make stuff up.

204 posted on 09/14/2008 11:09:00 AM PDT by voxitar (McCain/Sarah-cuda 2008!)
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To: voxitar
yes, I know they are biased

Biased? Try coconspirators.

Factcheck is wholly owned by the Annenberg Foundation.

The Annenberg Foundation gave Obama his bona fidies as a 'community organizer' they were his employer.

205 posted on 09/14/2008 11:10:45 AM PDT by null and void (When you bang your forehead on the ground five times a day, you get brain damage.)
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To: dascallie

Hillary’s October Surprise?


206 posted on 09/14/2008 11:12:33 AM PDT by BigFinn (isaiah 32:8 But the liberal deviseth liberal things; and by liberal things shall he stand.)
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To: Poser
If any of this crap was actually true, you can bet your tukas Hillary would have already used it.

Yup. The hi-res pix of Obama's birth certificate on factcheck.org has sealed the fate of this particular conspiracy theory.

207 posted on 09/14/2008 11:13:08 AM PDT by voxitar (McCain/Sarah-cuda 2008!)
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To: voxitar

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2071906/posts
*Breaking News* FactCheck posts update to its “Born in the U.S.A. ...


208 posted on 09/14/2008 11:13:22 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: Calpernia

Thank you Calpernia. It seems Obama has a real credibility problem concerning this issue. I hope Berg has some security around him as he will no doubt need it.


209 posted on 09/14/2008 11:14:43 AM PDT by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life ;o)
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To: null and void
Biased? Try coconspirators.

Fine, go to Politifact then. They have hi-res photos of Obama's birth certificate. It's legit. Time to move on.

210 posted on 09/14/2008 11:15:36 AM PDT by voxitar (McCain/Sarah-cuda 2008!)
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To: Calpernia
*Breaking News* FactCheck posts update to its “Born in the U.S.A. ...

All irrelevant minutiae. The photos show the COLB close-up and in high-res. It's legit. Time to move on.

211 posted on 09/14/2008 11:19:12 AM PDT by voxitar (McCain/Sarah-cuda 2008!)
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To: Prophet in the wilderness
Is it possible if this were to be proven true, could citizens take out a class action law suite on Obama and the DNC ?

On what grounds?

212 posted on 09/14/2008 11:22:02 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: voxitar

You ignored the information and just read the title.

The courts will decide since Polarik’s findings made the filings and not ‘Politifact’.


213 posted on 09/14/2008 11:23:02 AM PDT by Calpernia (Hunters Rangers - Raising the Bar of Integrity http://www.barofintegrity.us)
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To: DieHard the Hunter
Not particularly well written but interesting all the same. I wonder how it will be viewed by the courts...

My guess is that they'll start laughing at the "Obama is a representative of the Democratic People..." part.

214 posted on 09/14/2008 11:24:27 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: spacejunkie01
I don't know when the discovery phase is scheduled for completion.

I do recall that the Judge in the case said he wanted to expedite matters because of the urgency of the case due to the upcoming election.

I would think that Obama would produce a valid birth certificate and submit it as evidence at the first opportunity. If the Judge and other court experts examine it, and Hawaii state officials submit affidavits attesting to its validity, the case would be dismissed immediately.

If Obama follows any other course of action, it would be very unusual. A logical inference would be that he has something to hide.

215 posted on 09/14/2008 11:27:10 AM PDT by mojito
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To: Calpernia

I read the whole thing - nothing relevant whatsoever, just conspiracy-theorist type questions that ignore the fact that there are HI-RES PHOTOS OF THE ACTUAL COLB ON THE WEB. Go look at them. Unless you’re now going to argue that these photos are forged, as well as the COLB, the issue has been resolved. The COLB is legit. Time to move on.


216 posted on 09/14/2008 11:31:43 AM PDT by voxitar (McCain/Sarah-cuda 2008!)
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To: Non-Sequitur

Were this true, he would be a foreign national who has attempted to defraud the USA in an attempt to be elected president. It would be difficult to NOT conclude he was taking part in an illegal political coup. There has to be at least one federal law that could result in significant jail time for such an offense.

If there isn’t, there oughta be.

But there’s a long and far distance between the level of proof we see today, and that situation.


217 posted on 09/14/2008 11:32:11 AM PDT by savedbygrace (SECURE THE BORDERS FIRST (I'M YELLING ON PURPOSE))
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To: CHICAGOFARMER
" I think Biden would become the nominee, run without a VP, and if elected, appoint a VP. "

Ohh what tangled webs we weave when we first try to deceive.

Wouldn't Joe Biden be implicated in this also ?
Joe Biden should have surely known that if this is proven that Obama is not qualified, that Biden should have known... could he claim ignorance ????? That he was not aware of it ?
These are important questions to ask.
218 posted on 09/14/2008 11:32:30 AM PDT by Prophet in the wilderness (PSALM .53 : 1 The FOOL hath said in his heart, there is no GOD.)
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To: mojito
If Obama can not produce a birth certificate, or refuses to do so, then this story will go quickly from being a side-show to a major scandal in very short order.

If Berg cannot show legal standing in the suit then it'll be thrown out a whole lot quicker than that.

219 posted on 09/14/2008 11:33:56 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ebiskit
What if he just plain can’t run due to an obvious lack of constitutional eligibility?

I think the constitutional question will come down to can he serve, not can he run. I know it's a nuance, but one that a lawyer can exploit.

So, a judge may hold off on discovery until after the election, because if Obama loses then it's a moot point and doesn't need to be addressed.

If Obama wins, then it might create a constitutional crisis, which would put it in larger hands than this judge.

-PJ

220 posted on 09/14/2008 11:37:11 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never over-estimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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