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I haven't seen this phenom discussed. It matters not how the citizens in New Jersey and Maryland vote in the 2008 Presidential Election. The national popular vote will turn their electoral votes to the candidate receiving the most total votes. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/01/13/politics/main3706884.shtml
1 posted on 09/13/2008 7:49:36 AM PDT by NutmegDevil
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You missed this part:

However, the compact would take effect only if enough states - those with a majority of votes in the Electoral College - agreed to it.

2 posted on 09/13/2008 7:51:27 AM PDT by Interesting Times (Swiftboating, you say? Check out ToSetTheRecordStraight.com)
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Since these are two monolithic Democrat snake-pits, this can do nothing except help us.

Now, if only CA would do the same thing...

3 posted on 09/13/2008 7:51:57 AM PDT by ajwharton
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Funny...

This could put these two very blue states in the red column.


4 posted on 09/13/2008 7:52:01 AM PDT by Mrs.Z ("...you're a Democrat. You're expected to complain and offer no solutions." Denny Crane)
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Sigh. Cherry Hill, NJ is a nice place to live. Corzine is making it more and more difficult to remain.


5 posted on 09/13/2008 7:52:04 AM PDT by new cruelty (I don't want my daughters punished with obama.)
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This is funny. LOL. I guess we are going to have to some serious GOTV in Texas.


6 posted on 09/13/2008 7:52:08 AM PDT by Tribune7 (How is inflicting pain and death on an innocent, helpless human being for profit, moral?)
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So, that takes two “blue” states and puts them in play?


7 posted on 09/13/2008 7:52:46 AM PDT by IllumiNaughtyByNature (OBAMA: He was a flop before he became a flipper.)
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The national popular vote will turn their electoral votes to the candidate receiving the most total votes.

Not true. The law doesn't go into effect until states with a majority of electoral votes have signed up. This won't happen, so it's a cheap way for morons to protest the 2000 election results.

They are apparently so stupid they don't realize the pact could just as easily result in a Republican winning as a Democrat. They just assume the Democrat will automatically win the popular vote.

8 posted on 09/13/2008 7:52:54 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (qui)
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The most liberal states are doing this. I would think it would be pretty easy to paint these guys as extremists bent on doing damage to this country. There is a very good reason for having the electoral college, as it saves the decent, hard-working Americans from the whims of elitist a-holes like Corzine. We need to start paying more attention to this movement, though.
9 posted on 09/13/2008 7:53:11 AM PDT by Major Matt Mason (A happy member of the New Media.)
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NJ will surely be sorry they got what they wished for.


11 posted on 09/13/2008 7:53:48 AM PDT by Carley (she's all out of caribou.............)
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Absolute stupidity. They are negating the opinion of their entire population...their population, if they vote for Candidate A, but Candidate B has more votes nationwide, will have all of their electoral votes go to Candidate B.

New Jersey voters, congratulations: the Democrats have once again proven they don’t give a damn about what you think.


12 posted on 09/13/2008 7:54:24 AM PDT by Recovering_Democrat (Just say NObama!)
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The first time these liberal Massholes from big city, East coast states give their votes to a Republican who wins the Popular vote this whole thing will go away.

Then there will be mass lawsuits from the “Disenfranchised” who cry that their votes didn’t count.

This train wreck of elitism will be better than the Florida hanging chads


17 posted on 09/13/2008 7:58:28 AM PDT by CrappieLuck
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The national popular vote will turn their electoral votes to the candidate receiving the most total votes.

Which basically means that the state legislature told the voters of NJ to get bent, your vote doesn't count.

This will last until those states' EC votes get handed over to President Palin in 2012 ;)

22 posted on 09/13/2008 8:03:32 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (McCain/Palin 2008 : Palin the Paladin 2012)
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This has been discussed at quite some length here. The gist of it is that this will make it so that the few states with large liberal cities will determine who the President is. Democrat candidates will only need to campaign to win the large cities and they will win the Electoral votes.


24 posted on 09/13/2008 8:03:43 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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National Popular Vote
28 posted on 09/13/2008 8:06:04 AM PDT by kabar (.)
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When defeat is certain, make waves and blow some smoke to seem like you are winning. A second version of this tactic is taking place in Alaska and known as Troopergate.


34 posted on 09/13/2008 8:08:33 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . Conservation? Let the NE Yankees freeze.... in the dark)
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How sweet it will be when a Republican wins the popular vote while losing the electoral college vote, but wins the election because the geniuses in Joizy conspired to bite themselves in their own stinky butts.


35 posted on 09/13/2008 8:08:48 AM PDT by Combat_Liberalism
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This bill is Jamie Raskin from TAKOMA PARK's baby.

For out-of-staters:

Takoma Park is known as an extremely liberal community, sometimes called "the Berkeley of the East" or "The People's Republic of Takoma Park." The City Council voted unanimously in 1983 to become a nuclear free zone. As a result, no city purchases or investments can be carried out with entities that make nuclear weapons, components or delivery systems. In accordance with the city's principles, Takoma Park allows non-U.S.-citizen residents to vote in their own municipal elections. The city was also forbidden, by statute, from doing business with any entity having commercial ties with the government of Burma (Myanmar), though after a United States Supreme Court decision struck down a similar Massachusetts provision, enforcement of the provision was suspended in the year 2000. As of 2007, the Free Burma Committee is inactive. Takoma Park is also forbidden from purchasing any World Bank financial instruments. In addition, residents must obtain a permit to cut down any tree on their property measuring more than 8 inches in diameter. On July 23, 2007 Takoma Park joined 80 other jurisdictions when its city council adopted a resolution to impeach President George W. Bush and Vice President Richard B. Cheney
37 posted on 09/13/2008 8:09:54 AM PDT by MDformerDem
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I believe these measures are unconstitutional because they deprive the voters of their right to determine the electors in their own state. I cannot but think that they are unconstitutional under most states’ own laws. It not only subverts the purpose of the electoral college by replacing it with a dictatorship of the mob, it eliminates any possibility of small states having a say in the federal government.

While it’s not per se unconstitutional insofar as Article II, secs. 2 and 4 (and the Twelfth Amendment) go (the manner of choosing electors is up to the states), I believe this would constitute a deprivation of a constitutional right (to vote) without due process. If, in the off-chance that this actually gets adopted by enough states, it will be completely irrelevant what voters in Montana, Wyoming, Alaska, Nebraska, Delaware, etc. think since you could do the math and determine which states in the aggregate would have enough popular votes to determine the outcome of a national election. In other words, a few coastal states plus Illinois, Ohio and Pensylvania would determine the outcome of every national election. Incredible. This is what passes for Progressive politics these days?

Let’s just throw the whole constitution out the window and have mob-rule. I knew Corzine was an idiot, but this takes the cake. Talk about disenfranchisement.


43 posted on 09/13/2008 8:17:09 AM PDT by Ilya Mourometz
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Probably a moot point since nobody running for office uses the word “republic” anymore. We’re all democrats now. But The constitution GUARANTEES to the states a REPUBLICAN FORM of government, and isn’t that the basis of the electoral college?

I suppose it had been the basis for the state legislatures, originally selecting their respective federal senators, too, but we forgot what a republic is.

Now the U.S. Senate is an elitist house of lords, because they feel no restraint from their state legislatures (which are closer to the common people), which I believe should have remained in place.


53 posted on 09/13/2008 8:36:51 AM PDT by John Leland 1789
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Grossly dishonest title, as the second poster notes. Furthermore, this whole idea is unconstitutional, and I think it will be thrown out by the first court that sees it, if it ever gets that far.

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54 posted on 09/13/2008 8:37:50 AM PDT by Congressman Billybob (www.theacru.org)
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