Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant
Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.
Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.
The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)
According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.
The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.
It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.
The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.
There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.
Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.
Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.
bttt
Yeah, I guess that did sound a bit confusing. That’s what I get for trying to FReep with only a few hours sleep. ;-)
How does someone get a Hawaiian Certificate of live birth if they were born in a foreign country????
Simple the State of Hawaii will issue you one if you are adopted here.
It really is that simple.
That’s why the certificate number is blacked out or cut out of the document it cannot be faked to give Obama his half sister’s certificate and would instantly identify the true owner of the document in question.
Anyone need a reason why we should pursue this???
Here it is.....
We have a man who is using a forged document as his basis for running for the highest elected office in this land who may be the citizen of several countries (Kenya, Britain, Indonesia and the U.S.A.) and may have just as many names (Toot, Dunham, Soetoro, Obama,) and the only proof he is offering is a photshopped version of a half sister’s certificate of live birth.
>>>We have a man who is using a forged document as his basis for running for the highest elected office in this land who may be the citizen of several countries (Kenya, Britain, Indonesia and the U.S.A.) and may have just as many names (Toot, Dunham, Soetoro, Obama,) and the only proof he is offering is a photshopped version of a half sister’s certificate of live birth.
I wonder if that would contribute to multiple personality disorder?
:)
I don’t know about a Multiple personalities but it does seem to bring out a certain deity complex....
Just what the Mahdi ordered.
We have a man who is using a forged document as his basis for running for the highest elected office in this land who may be the citizen of several countries (Kenya, Britain, Indonesia and the U.S.A.) and may have just as many names (Toot, Dunham, Soetoro, Obama,) and the only proof he is offering is a photshopped version of a half sister’s certificate of live birth.
***So, basically we have the first possible illegal alien running for President. Pinging bcsco for the AFIRE ping list.
Duly noted...
.............. If Odumbo is involved in this forgery, aren’t there indictments that can be laid at his feet for said forgery????? Isn’t this a felony???.............
Or maybe even raising over $100 million dollars under false pretenses?
You said, “Really? Would it have been testing the bounds of reality for a sitting president to authorize the break-in of the Democrat headquarters for information on campaign strategic plans during an election?”
What “sitting president” authorized such a break-in? Let me have your source for your information.
None of this will matter one way or the other, even if true. Here’s why:
1. No Republican will touch this or pursue it because doing so will end his/her career. They would be attacked and smeared in the press to within an inch of their life. The party would be blamed. McCain would lose. The Republicans are not about to blow their current energy issue advantage by pursuing this. (vast right-wing / conservative conspiracy against the black man and all that).
2. The only challenge the could possibly be taken seriously would have to come from the Democrat side. The only Democrats with anything to gain are Bill and Hillery. But in the end it would still be a loser for them. If she brought it up, it stuck, and she was the convention nominee, the Democrats could kiss the black vote goodbye for at least a generation. She would not be able to win the election. If it didn’t stick, she and Bill would be persona non grat in the Democrat party forever after (sorry Chelsea, no political career for you).
3. No mainstream media will pursue this. It would be a career ender (see above). I doubt even Fox News would touch this with anything less than rock solid, irrefutable proof and a signed glossy of Obama himself making the forgery.
This will be a matter for the historians... and only if they have stones enough.
That is why we are exploring lawsuits at the state & federal level.
-PJ
Maybe it would help if you spelled it out: WATERgate, the same hotel Monica Lewinski was staying at during her scandal. If the person doesn’t get it, it means they’re too young to remember. It’s like saying “where were you when Kennedy was shot?” and they say, “Ted Kennedy was shot?”
I wish you luck.
Thanks. It will be sorely needed.
Here it is.....
We have a man who is using a forged document as his basis for running for the highest elected office in this land who may be the citizen of several countries (Kenya, Britain, Indonesia and the U.S.A.) and may have just as many names (Toot, Dunham, Soetoro, Obama,) and the only proof he is offering is a photshopped version of a half sister’s certificate of live birth.
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I now believe that statement was placed in the book as advance preparation for this fraud. He has known that his illegal ambitions would require skillful deception.
Graceful understatement?
By now all the big guns in the DNC know that their touted 'nominee' is deeply damaged goods. Hillary is playing this smart, by campaigning for Obama, so she can't be nabbed for exposing Obama's fatal flaws.
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