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Shocker: Obama's "birth certificate" forged with sister Maya's original
Israeli Insider ^ | 8/5/08 | staff

Posted on 08/05/2008 7:20:42 AM PDT by pissant

Independent analysts, working separately, have discovered that the original Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth used in the fabrication of the Barack Obama "birth certificate" belongs to the Presidential candidate's younger half-sister, Maya.

Examining the high resolution image originally posted by the "Daily Kos" left-wing blog and subsequently claimed as authentic by the campaign, and posted in lower resolution on the campaign official "Fight the Smears" website, at least two analysts have been able to independently discern the name "Maya Kassandra Soetoro" from artifacts left behind in the process of forging a new fake document for Barack from an image of Maya's original document. Additional confirmatory information, such as her birthday and the nationality of her father have also been resurrected. A full report documenting all details is to be published in the coming days.

The dramatic development comes just a day after a forensic specialist, posting on the Texas Darling blog under the name Techdude (his real name is known to Israel Insider), announced the discovery of the identity of the original owner of the COLB document used in the forgery but would initially only indicate that it was a woman born in the 1970's. However, he provided enough clues to enable another graphic specialist (screen name KG) to independently reproduce the incriminating evidence. (Techdude had said that he wanted to give the guilty parties time to confess to the forgery, but also to allow independent confirmation of his discovery. He even offered to pay for a trip to Vegas to the first person to discover the name and detail the method by which it was discovered.)

According to Texas Darling, which exclusively published these latest revelations, there is more to come: "In the coming days, Techdude will provide a final report that fully discloses his discovery, and provides all the fancy technical data, images, formulae etc. that everyone has come to expect. He will respond to questions posted on this blog to the best of his ability. (NOTE: KG has asked Techdude to donate the trip funds to help retire Hillary's debt, and Techdude has agreed.)" In the meantime, KG has posted details on how artifacts of the name "Maya Kassandra Soetero" were discerned.

The revelation that the COLB of Obama's own sister was evidently used to create the electronic forgery represents a "smoking gun" that appears to implicate Senator Obama directly. Hawaii law limits access to vital records to family members only, a fact which slowed down the ability of researchers to compare the purported Obama "birth certificate" -- which displayed from the start a peculiar provenance and inexplicable features -- to genuine specimens. Therefore, it would seem that either Maya K. Soetoro-Ng (as she is now called) supplied the document or its image to half-brother Barack or his campaign, or Obama/his campaign used it without her permission.

It appears unlikely, to say the least, that the campaign would have independently managed to obtain Maya's COLB, forged Barak's fake COLB using Maya's original, and verified the result as genuine without the candidate's knowledge and involvement. This is particularly true given the high profile treatment with which the campaign has treated the purported veracity of the supposed "birth certificate" in its Fight the Smears website. The apparent use of the Soetero document increases the likelihood of direct Obama involvement in the supply, production, and/or propagation of the forgery.

The stakes couldn't be higher. Even the Snopes anti-rumor site acknowledges that Obama's constitutional fitness to be president depends solely on his being born in the United States, because his mother -- not yet 19 at the time of his birth -- would not have had a sufficient number of years as an adult citizen, according to the laws prevailing at the time, to pass on "natural born citizenship" automatically.

There have been reports, so far unconfirmed, that Obama was born outside the country, either in Kenya, his presumed father's native land, or in Canada. The fact that the Obama campaign has been touting as genuine a forgery since June 12 will likely increase pressure to not only account for the fake but produce a genuine paper birth certificate. Obama, in his book Dreams from My Father, specifically mentioned having such a document in his possession, but it has not been submitted for public inspection or analysis if it in fact exists.

Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl. That, too, may shed light on Barack Obama's citizenship status and his ability, or inability, to document it.

Ironically, but perhaps not coincidentally, the Obama campaign has challenged the credentials of Republican opponent John McCain, because he makes no secret of being born out of the country, in Panama. But both of McCain's parents were Americans so, unlike Obama, are by statute able to pass on natural born citizen status to their foreign-born child.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Hawaii
KEYWORDS: birthcertificate; certifigate; colbaquiddic; fake; forgery; fraud; larrysinclairslover; obama; obamatruthfile; qfp; soetero; tangledweb; unqualified; whokilleddoanldyoung
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To: InvisibleChurch

Yep - Obama may be exiting stage left & Hillary will enter to save the day.


21 posted on 08/05/2008 7:28:24 AM PDT by right wing (The Drive-By Media Are Terrorists Too)
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To: pissant

Fox is getting ready to do a segment asking if Hillary can take the nomination away from Obama. Wonder what that’s about?


22 posted on 08/05/2008 7:28:53 AM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: pissant
Can someone explain to me all the talk about him having another name and being adopted. I guess I have really been out of the loop. I think Obama is a dangerous choice, but can't imagine getting to the point he is without definite proof he was born an American citizen, could he?
23 posted on 08/05/2008 7:29:13 AM PDT by old and cranky (You! Out Of The Gene Pool - Now!)
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To: pissant

Don’t you all understand? He’s humbly trying to conceal his virgin birth!


24 posted on 08/05/2008 7:29:55 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (ANWR would look great in pumps.)
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To: pissant; AU72
So, who is going to file the lawsuit or petition? What court or State would be strategically best? What would happen if it is filed in one State, friendly to Obama, and the court there finds him Constitutionally qualified, thus setting a precedent for the rest of the States to build on?

There is a lot of talk on this, but has anyone taken any substantive action yet?

25 posted on 08/05/2008 7:29:59 AM PDT by mnehring
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To: mnehrling

I think Hill & Bill will take care of all that. I’m sure they have the paperwork ready to go.


26 posted on 08/05/2008 7:30:10 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
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To: mnehrling
Each state has seperate laws and methods for determining a persons illegibility to hold office. Each state can make him put up or shut up if someone, anyone, files a complaint to the appropriate agency. The must investigate and ask certain questions by law, they can't gloss over it. Normally this isn't done but it was done to McCain so turn about is fair play and all that.

Obama, if challenged, will have to produce his real birth certificate or a certified copy(with the number showing)of a COLB. It is apparent why the number was blacked out, the COLB, the fake one, that KOS had up was supposed to be a pre-2006 COLB form, 1961 to be exact, but the truth is the number would have proven it to be post 2006, as it has turned out to be.

Truly a fake, for whatever reason. No Oilbama has some explaining to do.

27 posted on 08/05/2008 7:30:53 AM PDT by calex59
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To: Canedawg

I have a question. If his mom was American then isn’t all this kind of moot about where he was born?


28 posted on 08/05/2008 7:31:03 AM PDT by DrewsMum (Air up your tires and save the world!!)
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To: autumnraine

Got a link?


29 posted on 08/05/2008 7:31:12 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: pissant

Obam-ah! You got some ‘planing to do!


30 posted on 08/05/2008 7:31:35 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: pissant

But I thought that I read somewhere a few weeks ago that Obama’s birth announcement in a local Hawaiian paper published at the time of Obama’s birth was recently discovered.


31 posted on 08/05/2008 7:31:39 AM PDT by norcal joe
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To: pissant
Intriguingly, too, Maya Soetoro-Ng is believed to have been born outside the United States, in Indonesia, so her apparent ownership of a Hawaiian Certificate of Live Birth raises questions about how such a document was produced for an Indonesian-born girl.

This makes no sense.

32 posted on 08/05/2008 7:31:45 AM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: pissant

Strange days indeed.


33 posted on 08/05/2008 7:32:23 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: norcal joe

That has little to do with the fact he forged his Certificate of Live Birth.


34 posted on 08/05/2008 7:32:24 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: right wing

“Obama may be exiting stage left...”

He he. Good one.

There’d really be no other way FOR him to exit, would there?


35 posted on 08/05/2008 7:32:36 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
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To: Fawn
I can not think of any reasonable reason for Obama *not* to use his original birth certificate, unless there is a real problem.

Obama has been a “Golden Boy” all his life, who never really had the rules apply to him, so it is easy to believe that he never really worried about little things like Constitutional requirements would really apply to him.

36 posted on 08/05/2008 7:33:11 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: DrewsMum

No. Because his dad was not American.


37 posted on 08/05/2008 7:33:12 AM PDT by WayneS (And now I shall return to my hovel and cling to my guns ... until it is time to go to Church)
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To: pissant

Pissant my FRiend, I salute your laser-like determination on this issue, you are not unlike one of the ‘California 49’ers’ (not the NFL team) who kept on digging and digging and digging with all they had, because deep down, they KNEW there was ‘gold in them thar hills’.

You know instinctively that there is “fraud in them thar COLBs”, and I believe you will be an integral part of proving that. I truly do.

Keep up the good fight Pissant!


38 posted on 08/05/2008 7:33:27 AM PDT by mkjessup (Pissant? I don't believe any of that stuff they were saying about you and Larry Sinclair, LOL ;) j/k)
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To: InvisibleChurch
we should say “hi” to hillary; no doubt she’s scouring the net for ‘hope’ and change from Obama to Hillary the Dem nominee.

A shiver runs down my spine.

39 posted on 08/05/2008 7:34:18 AM PDT by BARLF
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To: Lee'sGhost

I saw her picture. She couldn’t be too picky!


40 posted on 08/05/2008 7:34:22 AM PDT by SMARTY ('At some point you get tired of swatting flies, and you have to go for the manure heap' Gen. LeMay)
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