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District Leaders Announce New Handgun Regulations
The Washington Post ^ | July 14, 2008 | Robert E. Pierre and Marcia Davis

Posted on 07/14/2008 5:09:07 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy

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To: Enterprise
“Gun owners will have to pass vision and written tests”

******The requirement for a written test will exclude about 90% of the D.C. population from owning a firearm.******

Blatant discrimination. Similar to law that was upturned by SCOUSA many years ago which prevented people from voting because they could not read or write.

161 posted on 07/15/2008 10:39:01 AM PDT by GOPologist (Illigitimi non carborundum.)
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To: ConservativeMajority
*** I live in DC. I demand my constitutional rights to self-defense under the Second Amendment! ***

Since you DO live in DC you can make a ton of easy money by getting an '01 FFL' and becoming the only one willing to do Legal Transfers and req'd Background Checks within the District. Just guessing, but your upfront costs may run about $1K for BATF fees and DC permits but that would be recouped pdq at $30-$40 per transfer, or higher if you want since you'd be the sole source of legal handguns in DC (In IL $30 to $40 is the average transfer fee).

IIRC there are currently only four Class 01 FFLs in DC and none will do transfers. One FFL holder is an exec. at the Violence Policy Center (that's a laugher) who got it for "research". That is against BATF regulations and as such, the law. But they'll be busted like ... never.

162 posted on 07/15/2008 10:40:30 AM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: Squantos
Take the individuals who wrote , presented and passed this BS to court.

I agree. Better still given the clearcut ruling in Heller re: locks, I wonder if there's a federal prosecutor with enough stones and jurisdiction to charge them with conspiracy to deny civil rights and denial of civil rights under color of law.

I don't play a lawyer on TV but maybe there's some strategy along these lines that could be applied. ?

163 posted on 07/15/2008 10:55:57 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar/Feathers '08)
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To: TribalPrincess2U
in Texas you have to take the same test each time you renew which includes field target shooting w/fast reloads.

In Georgia there is no test at all, including first time applicants; background check only. As a matter of fact, for my initial license, I simply provided my military ID and no check was run (the law has since changed.)

While I strongly support proficiency, it is an individual responsibility not one that should be required. For that matter, I still struggle with the concept of a license to exercise a fundamental, preexisting right.

164 posted on 07/15/2008 11:09:34 AM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar/Feathers '08)
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To: Condor51

That is an interesting idea.


165 posted on 07/15/2008 11:27:48 AM PDT by ConservativeMajority (If war isn't the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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To: budwiesest
It is belived that the gun issue cost Gore Tennessee- his home state ;^)

...and Arkansas and W. Virginia. Any one of those would have made Gore the President (as well as High Priest of Gaiaism).

Good going, Fenty - keep the issue up front. You're doing a good job for Jesse, making sure that Obambi can't get elected and thereby displace Jesse as THE Black Civil Rights Leader.

166 posted on 07/15/2008 12:01:31 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: angkor

I agree Angkor. I realized that when I read the article. You were right to point it out.


167 posted on 07/15/2008 12:06:17 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Annapolis, flight school, Congress, Senate, MIAs, Keating 5, Soros, Kerry... tried & found wanting!)
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To: Snow Eagle

“We are the last line of defense for the Constitution. Thus when the government disarms us, we can no longer be threats to them. We can no longer resist. If the government comes for my gun, I will go down shooting.”

Here’s the e-version of a very entertaining novella that will come out soon: http://www.esnips.com/doc/be8cad43-508b-4ee2-bdb4-2abd2d793114/ABSOLVED

Note: the author is also the author of the Window War: http://www.lizmichael.com/windowwa.htm


168 posted on 07/15/2008 12:15:38 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: LTCJ
For that matter, I still struggle with the concept of a license to exercise a fundamental, preexisting right.

I couldn't agree more. Does anyone have to have a license (with fees, photos, fingerprints, a written test, etc.) in order to purchase a bible or to go to a house of worship? When such is the law of the land, then I won't struggle with the concept...of course, then it'll be time for a different kind of struggle.

169 posted on 07/15/2008 12:21:03 PM PDT by Ancesthntr (An ex-citizen of the Frederation dedicated to stopping the Obomination from becoming President)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

We used to lynch tyrants in this country. Why did things have to change?


170 posted on 07/15/2008 1:45:53 PM PDT by Creek Injun
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To: FreedomPoster
What if you move in from another state

Good question. I don't know.

171 posted on 07/15/2008 2:32:57 PM PDT by kAcknor ("A pistol! Are you expecting trouble sir?" "No ma'am, were I expecting trouble I'd have a rifle.")
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To: ConservativeMajority
*** That is an interesting idea. ***

It's something to ponder.
And believe it or not but the BATF is pretty friendly to work with regarding licensing, as far as gubmint agencies go anyway.

I have a Class 03 C&R (Collector) and my local BATF office has been helpful when I had questions. (I got an odd request during my last renewal from the Atlanta office.)

172 posted on 07/15/2008 2:45:39 PM PDT by Condor51 (I have guns in my nightstand because a Cop won't fit)
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To: LTCJ

On GA, it ticked me off that I had to pay for another background check on my last renewal.


173 posted on 07/15/2008 3:31:55 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (<===Non-bitter, Gun-totin', Typical White American)
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To: FreedomPoster
On GA, it ticked me off that I had to pay for another background check on my last renewal.

Ditto.

174 posted on 07/15/2008 3:50:56 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar/Feathers '08)
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To: Condor51
I got an odd request during my last renewal from the Atlanta office.

??? Do tell.

175 posted on 07/15/2008 3:52:50 PM PDT by LTCJ (God Save the Constitution - Tar/Feathers '08)
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To: Gilbo_3
to the extent that it would cost goverment bodies money [ie taxpayers] it certainly would...however I believe the burden will still fall on the citizenry everywhere [its still guilty until proven innocent in most of yer list ] and the treasonous scum who willfully stampede on civil rights, personally, shall not be infringed...

Although a prosecutor will not generally receive any sort of sanction for bringing to trial a case which he obviously cannot win, prosecutors who make too much of a habit of such things may find themselves seeking employment elsewhere.

I would love to see cops who arrest people for actions they cannot reasonably believe to be prosecutable crimes face trial themselves, but I can't realistically see that happening until it is established that most gun rules are unenforceable. Proving that a cop didn't have good cause for arrest may not be hard, but proving that he could not have reasonably believed that he had good cause is apt to be much more difficult. Since prosecution of a cop would require meeting the latter standard, there's a ways to go before such prosecutions would be feasible.

176 posted on 07/15/2008 4:03:55 PM PDT by supercat
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Discrimination against the blind! Didn’t I read something about US money being retooled so that blind people could tell the difference between a $1000 bill and a $1 bill, for instance?

Let’s not ALL be blind to the end of the God-granted freedom envisioned by the FF.


177 posted on 07/15/2008 4:37:37 PM PDT by LurkedLongEnough (Music washes away the dust of every day life. ---Art Blakey)
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To: Bubba_Leroy

Seriously... What’s the use of having a gun for self-protection if it has a trigger lock? The point is to be able to USE the gun quickly - not waste valuable, and perhaps life-altering, minutes trying to get the thing ready to fire when confronted with someone breaking into your home... Guaranteed the criminal breaking in if they are carrying will NOT have to fumble with a dang lock!

All the other registration rules seem ridiculous to me as well. Then again, I’m pretty clear cut on my opinion of the 2nd Amendment - it means what it says, and IMHO all of these laws violate it...


178 posted on 07/15/2008 5:30:16 PM PDT by LibertyRocks (My Blog - http://libertyrocks.wordpress.com & NEW http://exposingobama.wordpress.com)
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To: TeleStraightShooter

Break these seditious asshats at the wallet is my suggestion........doom on such !

You stay safe !


179 posted on 07/15/2008 5:36:07 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet)
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To: Squantos
But not the district. Take the individuals who wrote , presented and passed this BS to court. The people who do this to other citizens can not hide behind a shield of office when they attempt too circumvent a “proven” constitutional right too keep and bear arms !

IIRC a governmental official's qualified immunity is breached when they knowingly abridge a Constitutional right which has been established as such within the Judicial Circuit in which they are located...

Cheers!

180 posted on 07/15/2008 6:28:58 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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