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To: politicket

The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities, then they were “racist”. So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldn’t pay it back. And that’s where we are...

Back to you, Chet.


5 posted on 07/11/2008 4:22:22 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Bobkk47
Political correctness is rapidly killing this country.

I'm 51 years old. I NEVER thought I would live to see its destruction but I probably will. God help the children of this country.

7 posted on 07/11/2008 4:24:43 PM PDT by proudofthesouth (Homosexuality IS a choice! There isn't any biological reason for it. They CHOOSE to be that way!)
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And you won’t hear Bush or any Republican state this fact, right David?


20 posted on 07/11/2008 4:31:36 PM PDT by gathersnomoss (General George Patton had it right.)
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So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldn’t pay it back.

LOL! Forced them? The banks were falling all overthemselves to lend money to people who couldn't afford it. They thought the worst case scenario would be they could soak the their customers for a couple of years worth of interest payments then foreclose and sell the house to some other sucker.

32 posted on 07/11/2008 4:39:22 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to
sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities,
then they were “racist”. So the forced them to loan the money to
people who couldn’t pay it back. And that’s where we are...


About two years ago, I couldn't get my co-workers here in Mid-Missouri
to believe some of the things I told them about the home-mortgage
game in Los Angeles (where I lived 1995-2005).

They couldn't believe that mortgage companies were pimping
"no need to verify your income" home loans...even the "jumbo"
loans.

Unfortunately, with the revelations of the last year...
they now say "you were telling the truth about this madness".
96 posted on 07/11/2008 5:15:29 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Bobkk47

Bingo.


122 posted on 07/11/2008 5:37:21 PM PDT by Madame Dufarge
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To: Bobkk47
The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities, then they were “racist”. So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldn’t pay it back. And that’s where we are...

Yes, absolutely. Every self-made crises we currently have -- energy, immigration, terrorism -- can be traced directly back to failed liberal policies. Liberals are far too ignorant and naive to be left in charge of anything important.

194 posted on 07/11/2008 6:47:17 PM PDT by Mad_Tom_Rackham ("The land of the Free...Because of the Brave")
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Wasn’t there a story just a few weeks ago about a woman who spoke no English and didn’t have a job receiving a $1 MILLION loan?


195 posted on 07/11/2008 6:50:01 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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Back to you, Chet.

You date yourself my friend!

201 posted on 07/11/2008 6:56:44 PM PDT by realdifferent1 ( I'll think of something...)
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To: Bobkk47
The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities, then they were “racist”. So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldn’t pay it back. And that’s where we are...

That sounds like affirmative action lending. Blooming idiots.

212 posted on 07/11/2008 7:16:31 PM PDT by Ron H. (If you don't stand for conservatism then you'll end up with socialism.)
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To: Bobkk47
The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities, then they were “racist”.

Forgive me, but that explanation is idiotic. Banks didn't loan to sub-prime borrowers because they were afraid of being accused of being racist, banks loaned to sub-prime borrowers because they could make a lot of money by lending to sub-prime borrowers at higher than normal rates.

The purpose of any corporation is to make money, and that's the only thing that banks -- as all normal corporations -- are interested in.

227 posted on 07/11/2008 7:33:17 PM PDT by Alter Kaker (Gravitation is a theory, not a fact. It should be approached with an open mind...)
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Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t it Alan Greenspan who said back in the 1990’s that every American deserved to own a home, and then lowered interest rates to 1% so it would be easier for them to buy?


302 posted on 07/11/2008 9:42:25 PM PDT by Deo volente
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The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities, then they were “racist”. So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldn’t pay it back.

How did the libs start doing that at a time when Republicans controlled the White House and both Houses of Congress?

With a Jimmy Carter era law that worked just fine throughout the 1980's and most of the 1990's?

The law says you cannot turn down somebody for a loan because of race, creed or color but nowhere does the law say you cannot turn down somebody for a loan because of the fact that they can't possibly repay what you are loaning.

Not everything in life boils down to libs vs conservatives.

Some things in life simply boil down to getting hoodwinked by a sleazebag that wants your money in his pocket.

What happened was a scam, a con game, a swindle.

Specifically, it was a classic Pigeon Drop " in which a mark or "pigeon" is convinced to give up a sum of money in order to secure the rights to a larger sum of money, or more valuable object. In reality the scammers make off with the money and the mark is left with nothing."

Unless you understand how the con game worked, you will not understand that the props (not the pigeons - the props) of the con game involved not only poor minority "house buyers" that borrowed $300,000 they could never repay to buy a $100,000 house but also included middle class "house buyers" with good middle class jobs that borrowed $850,000 they could never afford to repay to buy a $300,000 house.

***IMPORTANT***

The "pigeon" of this scam was the mutual fund manager of your own 401K. Therefore, you, by proxy, were the pigeon of the con game.

The illegal aliens, the deadbeats without jobs or low income workers borrowing $300,000 they could never hope to repay or the middle class guy with a middle class job borrowing $850,000 they could not afford to repay were merely the props of the con game.

***IMPORTANT***

The mortgage mess was created by loan brokers who were not lending their own money. They were just creating phony Pigeon Drop mortgages to sell to gullible investors. Let's be clear here. That "gullible investor" was NOT the house "buyer". It was a mutual fund manager, maybe in a mutual fund in your own 401K, or a foreign investor wanting to invest in the U.S.

At the time, the stock market was not red hot like it was during the Tech Bubble and interest rates on CD's were pretty low.

However, Americans were lining up for big mortgages that they promised to repay at a good interest rate after a few years at an introductory "teaser" rate.

As a long term investment, buying the rights to those mortgage loans seemed a pretty good investment and Wall Street's customers wanted to buy them up.

So, loan brokers would write up mortgages, they would be bundled up in financial instruments and would them be sold off to your 401K manager or to that foreign investor.

Everytime that happened, the loan broker would get a good commission.

Life was good for a loan broker.

There was one problem, however. Although there was a high demand for that product and investors wanted to buy up more and more of those mortgage loans, the supply of creditworthy borrowers was running out.

What to do?

Simple.

Just sign up borrowers without a snowball's chance in hell of repaying the loans. Mix those loans up with better loans in a package and the pigeons would still eat then up on Wall Street.

So, the loan brokers started creating mortgages by getting anybody, ANYBODY with a pulse (and even some dead people without pulses, as investigators discovered) to get their names on mortgages. The worthless mortgages were then sold to eager Wall Street investors, maybe the manager of your own 401K.

As the demand for these "great investments" grew, illegal aliens, native born Americans without jobs or good credit, people with good credit wanting to borrow three times what they could actually repay to buy a house at three times the price a real market could actually bear and even dead people had their names put on these Pigeon Drop mortgages.

And Wall Street's customers just kept buying that worthless paper up.

For the loan brokers, it was just like writing a commission check to themselves, having a drunk downtown sign it, taking the check to your 401K manager than then having your 401K manager give him you 401K money in exchange for that check.

That is why loan brokers were getting filthy rich.

Every time such a worthless Pigeon Drop mortgage was sold on Wall Street to a 401K mutual fund manager ....KA-CHING..... the loan brokers got richer with commissions.

The loan brokers who rounded up illegals and dead people's names to put on the dotted line for "loans" they could never hope to repay knew exactly what they were doing: They was swindling YOUR mutual fund manager out of YOUR money and they knew it.

How's your 401K doing lately?

The mutual fund managers and investors around the world, plus the legions of Freepers who used to argue that there was no such thing as the Housing Bubble all swallowed the loan broker's Pigeon Drop swindle hook, line and sinker.

The loan brokers who left the game early got filthy rich. The ones who stayed in the game too long are now in deep kimchee because the "pigeons" wised up and are no longer buying their worthless product.


384 posted on 07/12/2008 10:18:38 AM PDT by Polybius
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To: Bobkk47
The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities, then they were “racist”. So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldn’t pay it back. And that’s where we are...

There's a lot of truth to that. But of course, this will all be laid at the feet of President Bush and his so-called "failed economic policies". And the dumb masses will swallow it hook, line, and sinker.

397 posted on 07/12/2008 11:39:54 AM PDT by Purrcival (All your Diebolds are belong to us)
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And that legislation was the CRA....aka The Community Redevelopment Act.....


403 posted on 07/12/2008 1:06:11 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (No Burkas for my Grandaughters!)
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To: Bobkk47
The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities, then they were “racist”. So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldn’t pay it back. And that’s where we are...

Thank you. I increasingly see uneducated, low-class, irresponsible minorities living in big houses in good neighborhoods. Now we have to pay out of pocket for it. Ain't the government great?!!

441 posted on 07/13/2008 10:09:12 AM PDT by TheThinker (Capitalism is the natural result of a democratic government.)
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To: Bobkk47

> The libs told the banks that if you they didn’t loan money to sub-prime borrowers, the majority of whom were minorities, then they were “racist”. So the forced them to loan the money to people who couldn’t pay it back. And that’s where we are...

The banks didn’t do this because the libs told them to. That’s nonsense. They did it because their high-risk game was extremely profitable because of the rates being charged. The problem was that they felt there was no risk because of the bailouts mandated by FDIC.

Basically these banks were throwing the dice with heavy stakes, and they lost. And guess who gets to bail them out? We do. You ask me, all these risk-taking bastards need to reap what they sowed, pay out for the mistakes THEY made. You assume high-risk loans and make gazillions? When consequences happen, you OWN UP TO THEM. Deadbeats get thrown out of their houses, deadbeat bank leaders need to be stripped of any penny they can pay back for their bad decisions. But no, mark my words, these bastards will skate and keep their pricey beach house in the Bahamas with a hefty pension, so they can snicker at all us lackey taxpayers while they sip Mai Tais and flick cigar butts at the servants.


454 posted on 07/14/2008 8:27:19 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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