*LIVE THREAD* DC vs Heller decision due at 10:00 EST (2nd Amendment)

SCOTUS Blog ^ | 6-26-08 | shameless vanity

[RKBA Democrat]

Today is the day.

The folks at SCOTUS blog will be providing a live blog to follow developments as quickly as possible.

[WayneS]

You are correct. It should have been 9-0. It was, as they say, a “no-brainer”.

With that said, I have just read Breyer’s dissent.

I can only conclude that he does not understand his job. He is more concerned about the potential adverse effects the decision might have on OTHER gun laws than with the Consitutional issues associated with this case.

Then again, maybe HE is just a “no-brainer”.

[mware]

Amazing didn’t Obama announce yesterday that he disagreed with the courts ruling on the death penalty for child rapist??

[ReleaseTheHounds]

The few quotes I’ve heard of Scalia’s majority opinion seem beautifully written, establishing a firm precedent on the right to keep and bear arms... It seemed to me that he knew he was writing to establish a very clear affirmation of the Constitution’s protections here and, if the lousy liberals on the court have any real integrity regarding “precedent” this opinion should stand the test of time — hopefully forever.

[SunStar]

Getting Justices Alito and Scalia on the SC will stand as one of the President’s greatest accomplishments.

I'd say "the greatest" by far. This ruling is a huge day for America - the Supreme Court affirming 2nd Amendment rights is absolutely wonderful. Bravo, President Bush and Justice Scalia!

[Walmartian]

The “militia” comprised all males physically capable of acting in concert for the common defense. The Antifederalists feared that the Federal Government would disarm the people in order to disable this citizens’ militia, enabling a politicized standing army or a select militia to rule. The response was to deny Congress power to abridge the ancient right of individuals to keep and bear arms, so that the ideal of a citizens’ militia would be preserved.

I think the keys words here are "citizens’ militia" in leu of an organized government military. If the "citizens" aren't allowed to own assembled and unlocked guns you can't have a well armed militia.

[Double Tap]

That is probably the only way Kennedy would be part of it. Better that than the alternative, for now.

[mewzilla]

By the way Obama released a comment saying he agrees with the courts decision.

Obama just doesn't vote that way.

Sen. Obama, in my neck of the woods that makes you a liar.

[tj21807]

Scalia in closing writes:

“Undoubtedly some think that the Second Amendment
is outmoded in a society where our standing army is
the pride of our Nation, where well-trained police forces
provide personal security, and where gun violence is a
serious problem. That is perhaps debatable, but what is
not debatable is that it is not the role of this Court to
pronounce the Second Amendment extinct.”

[Vision]

Not that it needs to be said, but Obama is a shameless whore.

[WVKayaker]

I bought a lot of stuff through Rasmus, in the past. As for need, is the sky blue?

What would be cool, is for some enterprising FReeper to set up a mirror site, or three...

[abb]

I am amazed at the power they have too, we can thank Chief Justice John Marshall who engineered the power grab back in 1803. I don’t think it is a good thing either.

I agree. They only have the power they do because of the consent of the governed. That consent should be withheld more frequently.

[mware]

Yeah I would think he would want to snuff out gun owers, I guess that only applied to people who sell firearms.

[xDGx]

What this does is set the stage for further challenges, most likely to start in Chicago.

Just a step on the way, but an enormous one.

[Moose4]

Basically, it’s going to require more lawsuits citing Heller as precedent. And in MA, for example, the judges up there will probably just ignore Heller and do whatever they want anyhow, even though the language is pretty clear.

It’s unfortunate that it even had to come to this. The language of the Constitution is plain and clear, and doesn’t need nine old farts in black robes to interpret it. The fact that we’ve got to sit here and hang on every word that comes out of the Supreme Court to find out if our clearly-stated right to keep and bear arms still exists after today...well, that right there is an indication of the coup that the judiciary has pulled off in this country in the last hundred years.

The Supremes largely made the right decision, but it should never have come to this point in the first place.

}:-)4

[lado]

I’m sure our Dark Messiah Obama will be issuing a statement saying how ‘disappointed’ he is with this ruling.

[Darren McCarty]

The number one reason why we MUST vote for McCain is because there will be a large DEMOCRAT majority in the senate. Obama will have a free reign to give us a bunch of Breyers and Stevens clones. Don’t count on the GOP senate to fillibuster anything either.

[patton]

Not that I see - but, NYC can no longer not issue permits for ownership, eg, unless they have an individual reason.

[mewzilla]

Socialists are not in favor of private gun owership.

Obama is no different.

[San Jacinto]

Maybe so, but can you imagine the fruitcakes Obama will nominate and who will skate through confirmation??

The first requirement will be a strong background as a "community organizer".

[Mr. Mojo]

My prediction: 7-2 against DC.

You weren't alone -- a lot of folks predicted either that or 6 - 3. Gave SCOTUS a little too much credit. NO surprise that (Ford appointed) Stevens and (Bush Sr. appointed) Souter went with the gun-grabbers on this. Thank God Alito replaced O'Conner; Sandy very well may have joined Ginsburg and Co. today.