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McCain: It can be “tough” to be proud of USA
Reuters ^ | 6/14/08 | Jeff Mason

Posted on 06/14/2008 10:16:25 PM PDT by melt

WASHINGTON - Republican presidential candidate John McCain admitted on Saturday it can be difficult at times to be proud of the United States.

“I’ll admit to you … that it’s tough in some respects,” McCain said when asked by a questioner at a town hall meeting how to be proud of the country.

“We have not always done things right and we mismanaged the war in Iraq very badly for nearly four years.”

McCain’s wife, Cindy, pounced on Michelle Obama, the wife of presumptive Democratic nominee Barack Obama, for saying in February that she was proud of her country “for the first time in my adult life.”

The Arizona senator said it was important for the United States to be more humble and inclusive.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: election; leftwingblogger; liberalblog; mccain; mccainlegacy; mccaintruthfile; obama; propaganda; rino; votethirdparty
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To: Earthdweller

Then there’s also the selling out of POWs courtesy of John McLame & Jean-Fraud Kerry....

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=39892


161 posted on 06/15/2008 8:51:24 AM PDT by RasterMaster (Rudy McRomneyson = KENNEDY wing of the Republican Party)
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To: RasterMaster
It was “republicans” like Juan McCain who also have blood of 9-11 victims on his hands.

I'm not going to debate Rosie O'donald who thinks the republicans brought in all the latinos and took down the twin towers. ...end of discussion.

When you get your head out of that commie Lou Dobbbs behind, give me a ping.

162 posted on 06/15/2008 8:53:45 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Hildy

“I am furious at this country and Bush for what it’s done to our Serbian allies. My husband just got back and they hate us for what we’ve done to them. Backing our arch enemies and betraying our friends? Are you proud of that? I’m not.”

No? John McCain is. He insisted on sending our ground troops to Kosovo, said we weren’t being aggressive enough. Remember?
He also is getting big $$ from the Albanian lobby.

March 25, 1999
‘’These bombs are not going to do the job,’’ said Senator John McCain of Arizona, a Republican who was a naval pilot in the Vietnam War. ‘’It’s almost pathetic. You’re just going to solidify the determination of the Serbs to resist a peace agreement.

‘’You’d have to drop the bridges and turn off the lights in Belgrade to have even a remote chance of changing Milosevic’s mind,’’ he said. ‘’What you’ll get is all the old Vietnam stuff, bombing pauses, escalation, negotiations, trouble.’’

“Many Republicans have criticized the Democrat president for a failure of resolve over the Kosovo crisis and in other earlier foreign policy crises like Bosnia and Iraq.Republican Sen. John McCain of Arizona, who spent more than five years as a prisoner of war in Vietnam, insists the United States should be preparing its troops for a ground war in case that option became necessary.McCain was one of a number of members of Congress travelling to Brussels and Aviano, Italy with Defense Secretary William Cohen in the next three days to meet top NATO leaders and visit U.S. forces involved in the operations.”
http://www.alb-net.com/kcc/index24-1.htm


163 posted on 06/15/2008 8:58:00 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Ol' Sparky
So, you're implying independents and moderates aren't patriotic?

I didn't say anything about patriotism. I merely stated McCain's decisions (i.e. the way he is running this campaign) is an appeal to moderates, which is where his support has always been.

I myself am Independent, though I registered GOP to vote in the primaries. However, I'm not a moderate. I was hoping for Thompson, but by the time the primary reached my state, I had only Romney to vote for.

164 posted on 06/15/2008 9:13:13 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (Dad, I will always think of you.)
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To: AuntB

You guys are like a broken record. I am well aware of McCain’s stand. I am not proud of my Country’s stand on this issue. That is all I’m saying. Our Country has picked its side...and it’s the wrong one.


165 posted on 06/15/2008 9:15:38 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: melt

His quotes were taken out of context. He meant that it’s tough because there are so many anti-Americans who think it’s foolish to be patriotic. He didn’t mean that there were blemishes on America that make it difficult to love your country.


166 posted on 06/15/2008 9:17:12 AM PDT by Kleon
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To: melt

Does the GoP really want its war wagon hooked to this (insert your choice word here)!

Why do both parties hate this country so much?


167 posted on 06/15/2008 9:38:20 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... Godspeed ... ICE toll-free tip hotline 1-866-DHS-2-ICE ... 9/11 .. Never FoRget!!!)
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To: Hildy

“You guys are like a broken record. “

No, McCain is like a broken record,Hildy. You used Kosovo as an excuse to defend McCain. He destroyed that with his own words. I can’t help that. Support the old fool, it’s your business, but don’t make excuses for him that he can’t defend.


168 posted on 06/15/2008 9:42:31 AM PDT by AuntB (Vote Obama! ..........Because ya can't blame 'the man' when you are the 'man'.... Wanda Sikes)
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To: Hildy
"I’ll tell you what’s embarrassing...a forum that purports to love this country willing to give it over to the likes of Barack Obama...that’s not only embarrassing, it’s pathetic."

The forum isn't what's embarrassing, it's the choice of candidates that's embarrassing and pathetic, followed by Republican efforts to make the best of a bad thing by chastising anyone who points out McCain's many efforts to undermine the philosophies many here hold dear. It's too bad McCain can't drop out and give his nomination to someone else.

Personally, I want to believe that McCain is better than Obama and he is, sort of. If I have, say, 10 important issues to base my vote on, Obama gets 0 of the 10, whereas McCain gets 1 (war on terror) with maybe two more possible (supreme court and taxes). That should be enough to get my vote, but...he's said and done so many things that make me not trust him or even fear what he might do in office, that it's very possible he could be almost as bad as Obama.

169 posted on 06/15/2008 9:50:20 AM PDT by GBA
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To: Hildy
From here on in the press is going to take every single sound bite that can be used to piss off conservatives and push it in our faces. So much of it will be out of context. PLEASE, PLEASE let’s not fall into this trap and let the press manipulate us as well. I think we’re smarter than that.

I used to be a PollyAnna too - then, sadly, I woke up = and it was largely Freepers in the last few months that opened my eyes...Even FR has become saturated with Sheeple....

Here's an example: I was referred to this thread by a poster responding to one of my posts in another thread. Follow this back and you'll see why I just about give up on FR - it ain't what it used to be.

read the posters response to me and then my post he/she was referring too.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2031217/posts?page=58#58

170 posted on 06/15/2008 9:58:08 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (No trees were killed in the sending of this message. However, a large number of electrons were terri)
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To: AuntB; Hildy
McCain's whole platform ticks off everyone on all sides. He will never be totally defensible to any "purists" in either party.

The people we broke away from in the old country were "purists" and we all thought they s*cked eggs back then. What happened?

Republicans used to be about preserving what the founders laid down, a Republic of all the people. Dems have placed us in parallel opposite camps for too long. I reject it, I won't be catorgorized at the whim of the corrosive elites or the Clintons of the world, nor the rabid one issue voters that would sell our country down the river like a whining spoiled child.

I'm part of the new old time Republicans now. The original ideas still stand! I'll be looking forward to the forth this year more than ever. We have held onto our flag of freedom for all while the rest of the western world is being enslaved. God has really Blessed us all.

171 posted on 06/15/2008 10:06:27 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: Earthdweller

I think that McCain called himself part of the “bad bunch” - playboy works too. It is womanizing either way. Take away his first wife’s Mercedes and we’ll see how much she adores him.

As for judges, “bad bunch” works equally well for judges. Recall that McCain voted to confirm Ginsberg.


172 posted on 06/15/2008 10:13:55 AM PDT by ridge
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To: ridge
I don't know about you but it would take more than money to shut me up if a man totally did me wrong with malicious forethought.

Not every woman is a Hillary Clinton.

173 posted on 06/15/2008 10:25:52 AM PDT by Earthdweller
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To: AuntB

For the last time I did not use Kosovo to defend McCain. I used it as an example of how there are times I am not proud of this country. I do not know how many more ways I can say it.


174 posted on 06/15/2008 10:52:51 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: Hildy
Newsflash.

You are a liberal if you support McCain.
175 posted on 06/15/2008 11:51:12 AM PDT by Crazieman (Vote Juan McAmnesty in 2008! Because freedom abroad is more important than freedom at home!)
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To: melt

I find it difficult to be proud of my elected officials most of the time.


176 posted on 06/15/2008 11:54:42 AM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Crazieman

Contemporary republican politics are easy compared to the self-discipline required of conservatism.


177 posted on 06/15/2008 12:00:53 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Crazieman

OK, I’m a liberal. Crazieman.


178 posted on 06/15/2008 12:05:56 PM PDT by Hildy
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To: melt

I a PROUD to be a CONSERVATIVE, and it is tough to vote Republican, IMPOSSIBLE to vote RINO or for the RINO relic.


179 posted on 06/15/2008 12:09:21 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: Just A Nobody

Cannot dump McCain any longer. In the last couple primaries he finally reached the point where enough delegates are legally bound to vote for him to win on the first ballot.


180 posted on 06/15/2008 1:15:43 PM PDT by Ingtar (Haley Barbour 2012, Because he has experience in Disaster Recovery. - ejonesie22)
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