Posted on 06/13/2008 12:09:36 PM PDT by DCRoush
John McCain said Friday that the Supreme Court ruling on Guantanamo Bay detainees is “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.” The presumptive GOP nominee said the decision, a 5-4 ruling Thursday that determined Guantanamo detainees have the right to seek release in civilian courts, would lead to a wave of frivolous challenges. “We are now going to have the courts flooded with so-called … habeas corpus suits against the government, whether it be about the diet, whether it be about the reading material. And we are going to be bollixed up in a way that is terribly unfortunate because we need to go ahead and adjudicate these cases,” he said at a town hall meeting in New Jersey. McCain said he has worked hard to ensure the U.S. military does not torture prisoners but that the detainees at Guantanamo are still “enemy combatants.” “These are people who are not citizens. They do not and never have been given the rights that citizens in this country have,” he said. “Now, my friends, there are some bad people down there. There are some bad people.” Barack Obama released a statement Thursday saying the Supreme Court decision “ensures that we can protect our nation and bring terrorists to justice while also protecting our core values.” “The Court’s decision is a rejection of the Bush administration’s attempt to create a legal black hole at Guantanamo - yet another failed policy supported by John McCain,” he said. “This is an important step toward re-establishing our credibility as a nation committed to the rule of law and rejecting a false choice between fighting terrorism and respecting habeas corpus.”
(Excerpt) Read more at elections.foxnews.com ...
There's another article I want to show you that will have Miranda Rights read to captured terrorists, thanks to Mcpain.
“If you think McCain is “barely better,” you have a lot more reading to do.”
With all do respect I have done plenty of reading. McCain is barely better, He is the original loose cannon.
LOL. Too many words. :) Can you paste the exact phrase?
No more, GOP "leadership", no more.
“The web page you cited does not supersede the congressional legislation of ‘06.:
Yes it does. Once you are CONUS you get the writ. Once you get the writ you get the Constitution. McCain is too stupid to know this.
“Amen! Mcpain and the SCOTUS arrived at the same point. Bill of rights for terrorists.”
The really amazing thing is I don’t think McCain and some posters get it. Stupid. With McCain this crap happens all the time.
I’m not denying that you’re right. I just want to see the words that say that once any person goes into CONUS he can demand a writ. I’m perfectly capable of admitting that I’m wrong.
Check out Jackson in ex parte Quirin. I think this is the decision. I have not read it but I heard it is documented in Levin’s book.
I am 100% sure that in CONUS, unless you are subject to UCMJ (our troops), you get all the to file a Writ of Habeas Corpus. My Constitutional law classes where a long long time ago, I can also guarantee you that this is the reason for GITMO existence.
Mine stands too! DU is rampant here!
That is the problem of bringing these people into the US. Until this recent decision if they were outside CONUS they could not file a writ. Inside they can and that little point is what John McCain was clueless on.
And I am not conspiracy guy, but who the heck does John McCain get his advice from?
I hear it is Carly Fioriana on econ and that is a total disaster.
http://supreme.justia.com/us/339/763/
Here is the case that was overturned. It says that if you keep people outside US Territory (not just CONUS, they do not get Constitutional rights - implied is that if you bring them in they do. Ego GITMO.
There is nothing that contradicts the congressional legislation.
An article does not have the capability to grant rights to terrorists.
“Yes it does.”
No, a web page cannot supersede congressional legislation. Do you know of any governmental legislation, besides the recent ruling of the SCOTUS, that supersedes the congressional legislation I cited?
Whatever the merits of the decision may be, this is certainly a radical departure from simply lining up non-uniformed enemy combatants against a wall and shooting them, like we did in WWII.
How so?
It makes it all so nice and bipartisan when the leader of the Republican Party wants to close Gitmo. The court just went one step farther, bringing them out of Gitmo and into the US legal system.
What in the hell were all those primary voters thinking???
Is McCain showing signs of unhealthy aging with such remarks? Could we end up with a veritable Robert Byrd behind the Oval Office desk?
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