Posted on 06/13/2008 12:09:36 PM PDT by DCRoush
John McCain said Friday that the Supreme Court ruling on Guantanamo Bay detainees is “one of the worst decisions in the history of this country.” The presumptive GOP nominee said the decision, a 5-4 ruling Thursday that determined Guantanamo detainees have the right to seek release in civilian courts, would lead to a wave of frivolous challenges. “We are now going to have the courts flooded with so-called … habeas corpus suits against the government, whether it be about the diet, whether it be about the reading material. And we are going to be bollixed up in a way that is terribly unfortunate because we need to go ahead and adjudicate these cases,” he said at a town hall meeting in New Jersey. McCain said he has worked hard to ensure the U.S. military does not torture prisoners but that the detainees at Guantanamo are still “enemy combatants.” “These are people who are not citizens. They do not and never have been given the rights that citizens in this country have,” he said. “Now, my friends, there are some bad people down there. There are some bad people.” Barack Obama released a statement Thursday saying the Supreme Court decision “ensures that we can protect our nation and bring terrorists to justice while also protecting our core values.” “The Court’s decision is a rejection of the Bush administration’s attempt to create a legal black hole at Guantanamo - yet another failed policy supported by John McCain,” he said. “This is an important step toward re-establishing our credibility as a nation committed to the rule of law and rejecting a false choice between fighting terrorism and respecting habeas corpus.”
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It's becoming a pattern, isn't it?
I'm becoming more and more depressed about our options.
And more and more fearful about the consequences...
Oh, then you’re a big Obama supporter huh!!!!!
LOL, good for you. It sure is a tough concept for some ‘incredibly bright’ (LITOMs) people to conceptualize isn’t it.
“We are folling the Geneva Convention. The Geneva Convention protects lawful combatants. The legislation that McCain voted for classifies these terrorists as ‘unlawful combatants’. Therefore they are prohibited from having the same rights as lawful combatants. (Until this SCOTUS ruling, which McCain has denounced and Obama has praised)”
It does not MATTER, LISTEN PLEASE, McCain can make any law he wants. He is too stupid to know that once the detainees enter CONUS the law is null and void.
Here, let me correct your typing so you get it straight.
“It seems quite obvious to me that DU has infiltrated FR with McCain bashers/haters. Only explanation I can think of.”
How could these people be so stupid. McCain says this and says that but he is completely detached from reality. On amnesty he said the bill would bring illegals out from the shadows. “No way, McCain, you idiot, your amnesty bill would just create another incentive.”
That’s the direction I was headed in with my question. :)
>>Bush has a much better constitutional reason for bucking the court decision than Jackson had. Jackson was wrong.
Jackson may have been wrong, but he fought back and eventually proved his point; i.e, there is a separation of powers and one branch does not reign over the other. Today, we have a judicial tyranny form of government because NO ONE will say “ENOUGH”.
“is that you are to f’n dumb...Now if you’re not as stupid as you have proven to be to this point..”
Your childish personal attacks don’t mean anything to me. I have questions regarding your previous comments. Since only two candidates have a chance of winning, do you want Obama to win, or do you want McCain to win? Also, since Obama has voted against funding for the troops mulitple times, what would prevent Obama from vetoing any additional funding for troops serving in Iraq, wich would force our defeat and hand Iraq to al-qaeda and Iran? Why are you unwilling to answer these simplistic questions?
If you think McCain is “barely better,” you have a lot more reading to do.
Amen! Mcpain and the SCOTUS arrived at the same point. Bill of rights for terrorists.
The web page you cited does not supersede the congressional legislation of ‘06.
We should not blindly support anybody. We must know what it is that we are supporting.
There is no desire to "tear down McCain", there is only a desire to understand what he is for (and what he is against). And, you must admit, that is not an easy determination.
There will be two choices for the Presidency. Almost certainly one will be totally unacceptable. But doesn't the other have to be acceptable in some way?
The conservative vote is there for McCain to mobilize in his favor. But doesn't he have to do something to earn it?
Nor will I.
Oh no, my original statement stands.
You cannot reverse 10 years of FR history on McCain. Nice try. :)
Exactly. There’s also Libertarian people on here that support Obama’s isolationist foreign policy and his position on things like partial birth abortion, and thus are hoping for McCain to lose.
I think McCain is a fine candidate and a great American. He is a patriot from a patriotic and self-sacrificing American family. He is pro-life except for the funding of fetal stem cell research vote, which is now a moot point. He is reform-minded. He has moved to the right on many issues that are important to us here on FR—just read all the leftist diatribes against him for this. Most important, he is strong on the defense of this country, his most important job as president, and the most important issue in this election, aside from making sure we don’t end up with an enemy of our country in the White House.
I'm prepared to observe that we now have, as candidates, the two most ignorant people to ever run for President.
One is guided (and blinded) by ideology -- a tool of his handlers.
The other is basically clueless.
The opportunity for a successful administration will be almost solely determined by their appointments.
McCain's appointments at least have a chance to be better than Obama's.
It is, mostly because our political hacks have for so many years drummed into our heads the "least worse" method for electing anybody to anything, but especially for national office. Most of these people are not true conservatives, so they find it easier to "rise above their principles" and pull that "least worse" lever again and again. They believe in "party above principle" (the "just win, baby!" concept). They see little wrong with Big Tent GOP RINO Central (RNC), and can't understand why the true conservatives have their heels dug in this time around.
To these faux conservatives I say, send your complaints to Big Tent GOP RINO Central. They're the ones, along with the rest of what passes for the senior GOP leadership, responsible for supporting every dumbass they could find so long as he wasn't a true conservative. Let them live with it.
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