Posted on 06/05/2008 6:14:40 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
WARREN, Mich. -- Police said 20 to 30 men who brutally attacked and robbed a motorist Saturday night may also be responsible for several other violent crimes that took place the same day.
Four people were taken into custody for questioning after a motorist was beaten unconscious.
Police said the incident took place when Andy Kauffman, 29, and his wife, Angelina, were driving on North River Road when more than two dozen men wearing ball caps and baggy shorts spread out across the street and blocked traffic.
Kauffman tried to drive past them and someone threw a brick in his window. Kauffman stopped his car and got out to see what happened.
"At that point at least 12 of the subjects jumped on him, beating and kicking him several times to the point where he was unconscious," Macomb County Sheriff Mark Hackel said. "A second man then got out of the car and also was attacked, but not nearly as bad as the first individual."
A short time later, police were called to a gas station nearby for a fight.
A man who was using the pay phone was beaten. He was not seriously injured, police said.
Police said there were several incidents within a few hours and they fear the same group of attackers was involved.
Anyone with information can call 586-469-5151.
Actually, nothing against revolvers, it's just that one night in RVN, after some serious drinking, I had this very bad dream that the PAVN were coming through the concertina wire and I pulled the trigger on a revolver, and the cylinder remained still and I revolved....
Be well.
Call 202-456-1414. They give lessons on blocking unwanted e-mails.
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You are determined to be right, so, I’ll let you have the last word. I made a simple comment, you took it as something you had to win. Enough for me. I proclaim you winner.
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Now you are getting into one of my favorite subjects. Practicing close up shooting. Night or day, I love it. I don’t use my sights and generally my wrist is against my stomach when I am pulling the trigger, with my left shoulder pointed at the target. My left hand is above my nipple and generally close in to my shoulder. Sometimes holding the holster other times extended away from my shoulder.
This model shoulder holster is ideal because I don’t have to move my hand more than six inches to clear it. http://www.c-rusty.com/pages/holsters/large/brownshoe.htm If push comes to shove I’ll shoot through the jacket or vest that I am wearing.
I also have a couple of lightweight jackets that have been sprayed with a fire retardent to keep the cylinder and muzzle flash from igniting them. I’ll use them for practice shooting without removing the revolver from the pocket or to shoot through the side flap.
Squeezing off two shots as fast as possible is not as easy as most folks think it is.
That shooting style sounds close to CAR (Center Axis Relock). If you are not familiar with it, Google or YouTube “Paul Castle” and “Center Axis Relock”. It’s a far cry from Weaver or isosceles.
Probably with a greasemonkey script of some sort.
They cordon off neighborhood in Sweden. It just become Muslim ghetto that police are afraid to go in.
An FBI agent in Ventura taught the basics to me many, many, many years ago. I don’t think it had a name back then. I have made many little additions to cover every situation that I could think of. I have noticed that if I am at an indoor range, I seem to be the only one using that method. Isn’t it taught anymore?
Actually we're not but thanks for the nit picking...........On the other side of the river is a road called "South River Rd." The south side of the river is precisely that, Harrison Twp. The Gibraltar Trade Center is Mt. Clemens, the Mt. Clemens Racquet Club and softball/bar/and bowling complex down the rd. is Mt. Clemens and the entire stretch of highway between Gratiot and the trade center is Mt. Clemens.
How do I know? I lived in the neighborhood for almost 25 years and regularly frequent the bars in downtown Mt. Clemens and attend the weekly summer fireworks displays.
Tell you what tho, if you want to to demand that its Harrison Twp., then we'll call it Harrison Twp...........
I watched a supposedly well trained man, who at the time was my senior by about 20 years, drop a magazine out of his 1911 onto the ground as he withdrew it out of his holster. He never saw it happen and it took him at least 30 seconds to determine what the problem was and reload another magazine. Then he forgot to rack the slide as he took aim, then flustered again, he finally fired one shot into the winch on the back of my bulldozer. In the meantime I had already started settling the score with my M-14. Not his best day, to be sure. LOL Then again it wasn’t his worst because he didn’t get shot either.
That single incident convinced me that training was something never to be neglected. It also taught me that semi auto handguns weren’t all they were bragged out to be. Damaged magazines, safties, racking the slide, there’s a lot of steps to remember and when TSHTF I prefer not to be waylayed trying to remember what I did or didn’t do in the heat of the moment. Thank you, I like my little Chiefs Special that has never jammed or failed to discharge an empty casing because of a worn ejector. I’ve never had a magazine spring give out on me. I guess I just lucky, huh?
That is, if HE “blocks” my posts to him, then any HE makes to me should not show up on my ping list either. Otherwise, FreeRepublic is wide open for one party to be able to seriously harass another, with the harassed party having no recourse.
I absolutely agree.
When I joined FR there was one, maybe two FReepers that I had no cyber chemistry with and we stopped posting to each other. I couldn't tell you who they were now. Shoot, we're probably posting to each other again. LOL
But blocking a post is a childish way to handle the situation.
That's emails. We're talking individual post on FR.
Thanks. If a FReeper annoys me I just zoom right on past their post to me. It's called, the cold shoulder. LOL
FWIW, good perch fishing during ice fishing season off the public access ramp there...........Walk out in a S.E. direction about 200 yards and start drilling holes.......
Those Mormans are at it again.. /s
I’m only mildly familiar with it. Not something I would try. Too much to unlearn.
I tell everybody who asks to get a GOOD “wheelgun”. They don’t malfunction! But I still carry a Series 80 .45 ACP. It’s a good weapon, however it does malfunction on the odd occasion for all the reasons you mentioned. So long as we practice, practice, practice....enough so that when the unexpected happens, we go into “act mode” based on training...everything works better. But as you’ve pointed out, too few people practice “that” much.
From what I gathered during a quick read on Google, it certainly has been refined since I learned the basics back in ‘66. There are CAR schools that train only LEO’s. I never liked the Weaver stance, even when I was target shooting.
High Capacity Magazine debates aside............ on this one I have too agree with 1rudeboy. Why did the guy stop with his lady in the vehicle. He got out lucky with JUST an ass whuppin by a collective of weak punks.
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