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And if America were to start expanding domestic drilling wouldn't history repeat itself...
1 posted on 05/21/2008 3:35:12 PM PDT by kellynla
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To: thackney

ping


2 posted on 05/21/2008 3:35:35 PM PDT by kellynla (Freedom of speech makes it easier to spot the idiots! Semper Fi!)
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To: kellynla; thackney

Good too ping Thackney ........:o)


3 posted on 05/21/2008 3:37:24 PM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: kellynla

It is time to beat up our Congress-critters with emails demanding they pass legislation to increase domestic production. I told my delegation today that despite their efforts, I hold them and not the oil companies responsible.


4 posted on 05/21/2008 3:44:23 PM PDT by Jacquerie (Senators see the light when they feel the heat - Demand domestic energy production!)
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To: kellynla
And if America were to start expanding domestic drilling wouldn't history repeat itself...

The minute the approval went out to drill the price would collapse.

I think the price will probably crash on its own sooner then later anyway when usage drops off.

5 posted on 05/21/2008 3:45:51 PM PDT by Recon Dad (Marsoc Dad)
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Many high-cost wells, which became productive after the oil crisis of 1978-1980, became unprofitable in 1986 and were shut in.

I wonder if any of these were reopened. If not, can they be ?
8 posted on 05/21/2008 4:07:37 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: kellynla

It’s not 1986. You have different factors and new sources of demand for a finite amount of a monopoly good. The price of oil is going to destroy our economy.


9 posted on 05/21/2008 4:08:06 PM PDT by mysterio
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Regardless that Congress has had since the 1973 oil embargo to address oil independence, history is repeating itself. So I'm keeping an eye on energy options.

Although I don't use this product, since people are starting to use bicycles more, people might be interested in this autoshifting bicycle.

Autoshifting bicycle
Also, I'm keeping an eye on developments in bio-fuel production.

First, the bad news about ethanol. Ethanol fires are evidently harder to control than gasoline fires.

Ethanol fires hard to control 1
Ethanol fires hard to control 2
Hopefully, ways will be developed to make controlling ethanol fires easier.

On the brighter side concerning ethanol, there's now evidence that people might get as much, or more, bang per buck for their gas dollars with gas / ethanol mixtures.

Gas-competitive gas / ethanol mixtures
Also, I was surprised by the introduction of a machine (popularly known as a still) for making home-made ethanol.
EFuel100
In stark contrast to the 1700 gallons of water required to make one gallon of corn-based ethanol as indicated by the OP, the EFuel100 uses only 170 gallons of water to produce 35 gallons of ethanol In other words, the EFuel100 uses less than 1% (about 0.2%) as much water as corn ethanol, under five gallons, to produce one gallon of ethanol.

But also note that the water used in the EFuel100 process does not take into account the water needed to grow the sugar that is used for this process.

And watch out for fines for violating biofuel regulations.

Fines for violating biofuel regulations
Also, progress is being made in the development of other non-corn ethanol production technologies as well.
Non-corn ethanol
Finally, I've also been hearing good things about biodiesel production but need to find some links.
11 posted on 05/21/2008 4:18:34 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: kellynla
And if America were to start expanding domestic drilling wouldn't history repeat itself...

No, it would help but it would not collapse oil prices. And if it did collapse oil prices the E&P in the States would grind to a halt.

However, we should drill in ANWR right away but the world were to decrease oil consumption by 0.11% that would do the same for the price of oil as bring ANWR on line.

15 posted on 05/21/2008 4:43:27 PM PDT by trumandogz ("He is erratic. He is hotheaded. He loses his temper and it worries me." Sen Cochran on McCain)
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To: kellynla

My recollection is that 1986 is the only year in modern America where the national economy experienced deflation, due to the oil bust. Texas went through a depression.


19 posted on 05/21/2008 4:56:50 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free
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I do not know what the point of this posting is. This situation will NOT happen again. There is way too much demand in the world and supplies are drying up. We were warned about this situation many times and yet we did not do the things we should have done to prevent this situation we are now in.
This is stupidity on a colossal level. We should never have abandoned the synthetic fuel programs that we started back in the Carter administration. This is the one good thing Carter did in his whole time in office- at least domestically.
We are in a world of trouble now. I do not see any way out of this problem. Our lives will soon change in a manner in which most of us would have believed impossible just a few years ago.
20 posted on 05/21/2008 4:56:55 PM PDT by truthguy (Good intentions are not enough!)
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To: kellynla

There is something this article is missing- the dollar was much stronger than it is now.


25 posted on 05/21/2008 9:34:36 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Karl Marx supported free trade. Does that make him a free market conservative?)
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To: kellynla
Not necessarily. If The Congress did something right for a change, they could impose a floor price triggered tariff which would support continued E&P in the US, to guarantee that we could expand our capabilities here without the bust that happened in '86, or the crash that happened in '98-99. the latter happened when the EIA came out with a report predicting a global glut of oil, but which completely disregarded growing Asian demand.

That report set the stage for what is happening now--instead of getting it right, and activity gearing up, it stopped, and another wave of stripper well P&As happened, just like '86.

The loss of that (then) marginally (un)economical production, which in aggregate was substantial, (even though individual wells produced under 20 bbl/day,) has hurt us, and put us behind the curve when global demand took off.

While the tariff might never actually kick in, it would provide a level of investor confidence which would bring in more development capital and permit more long-termed investment in infrastructure with less risk.

In reality, this is not an embargo scenario like the runup prior to 1986, but is demand driven.

Instead, Congress will propose taxes like the "windfall profits tax" and more fuel taxes, rather than propose a tax which could help development rather than harm it and the American people.

27 posted on 05/21/2008 11:43:20 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly.)
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