Posted on 05/09/2008 7:01:37 AM PDT by Bluegrass Federalist
JEFFERSON CITY — Voters could decide whether to enact a photo ID requirement for voting under a proposed constitutional amendment given first-round approval Wednesday by the Missouri House.
Legislators approved a photo ID law in 2006, but it was struck down by the state Supreme Court as a violation of the state constitution. The proposal approved Wednesday would present the idea to voters as a constitutional amendment either in November or in a special election.
House members gave the resolution first-round approval on a party-line vote, 89-67.
Republicans brought up the proposal after the U.S. Supreme Court said an Indiana photo ID law was constitutional.
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An effort has begun to amend the Missouri Consitution to allow for photo ID. It has gotten first-round approval in the House, and needs one more before going to the Senate. From the article, at least, it appears that the amendment may not need the Governor's appproval to get on the ballot. Any Mo. folks able to shed light on that?
You know, there is some humor in this. You vote without the requirement of photo ID on a potential state constitutional amendment to require a photo ID to vote.
Exactly.
This is really a bad idea.
Alienage and vote-fraud issues aside, it creates a real problem for persons trying to defend their fundamental rights in a host of situations. Consider:
As things stand now, you are who you are, and your rights are yours. They inure to you naturally and are yours to claim at any time and in all circumstances: arrest, tax challenges, indictment, casual police contacts, the voting booth.
If you add an ID card, your rights transfer from you to the card. You are no longer who YOU say you are -- you are who THE CARD says you are. This is huge. All your rights now revolve around, and flow from, your card. Your card has rights -- YOU don't.
Take away the card -- by trickery, natural disaster, crime, police oppression under color of authority -- and you yourself are toast. You are Esau, whining for your inheritance: you're out of luck because someone swapped you a bowl of pottage for your birthright. The supposed advantages of a voter ID card are that bowl of pottage.
Remember, totalitarian societies use ID's -- the hated "internal passport" Soviet and black South African citizens were required to carry on their persons 24/7/365 -- as a primary control device on people, and ID was always the first thing the KGB took away from a dissident Russian, to control his dissent.
Would you want Hillary to have a leash around your neck? How about a "Hillarycard", to claim your "Hillarycare" and your right to "Hillaryvote"?
Think about this before you screw it up for everyone.
Circunstances sometimes demand special measures. Security should be a prime concern in this country.
Swell. But if it weren’t for thieving, corrupt democrats stealing elections and turning voter fraud into a art form, none of this would be necessary. The true corruption of the system here would be the cancellation of my vote by some illegal alien taken to 10 precincts by an Acorn rep for 5 bucks and a pack of Camels.
this is going to pass...people are tired of illegals having the “right” to vote....we also need to bring back literacy tests [in English]
Sweet. We could see another potential swing State secured against the Dimocrats!
Not sure about this one. I know that when the conceal and carry law was passed, it only did so because it was brought to the voters after losing in the MO House and Senate. This might be something similiar. I do happen to support the ID issue.
The lack of any logic in this statement is stunning. There are many ways to "prove" who you are, fingerprints, DNA, testimony of those who know you. The ID we're talking about, usually a drivers license, is only a way to quickly verify your identity.
Are you saying your drivers license has a right to drive but you don't? Are you saying a permit to carry has a right to carry a firearm not the holder of the permit? This is downright silly. No one is forcing you to have an ID. It's just if you can't verify who you are you can't drive, you can't carry a firearm, you can't get on an airplane, you can't cash a check and you can't vote. Some people are probably so paranoid they would rather give up these things rather than identify themselves. So be it. This Country allows them this freedom.
The left wants me to show my ID when I buy a firearm, if that is good enough for them then, since voting is just as serious an exercise in rights, the left should not have any problem with having to show an ID to vote.
Sorry, an ID card is not a person.
I think you’re overreacting. You can’t even cash a check without a photo ID, certainly voting is far more important. Because you have to show ID when cashing a check, does that take your identity away and transform it to the card?
I believe you are confusing voter photo ID with the national ID card issue. Very different. Voter photo ID is not a different ID, it is just a requirement that you show your drivers license or military ID or similar to prove your identity. No chips, no new programs, no nothing. Show the ID that 99.8 of us have already.
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