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After the SCOTUS Crawford decision we had a discussion about future voter ID efforts, and in particular Missouri. When one poster questioned whether Missouri's invalidated photo ID law could now be valid, I reminded that the law had been invalidated under the state constitution and that Crawford would not directly affect it.

An effort has begun to amend the Missouri Consitution to allow for photo ID. It has gotten first-round approval in the House, and needs one more before going to the Senate. From the article, at least, it appears that the amendment may not need the Governor's appproval to get on the ballot. Any Mo. folks able to shed light on that?

1 posted on 05/09/2008 7:01:37 AM PDT by Bluegrass Federalist
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To: Bluegrass Federalist

You know, there is some humor in this. You vote without the requirement of photo ID on a potential state constitutional amendment to require a photo ID to vote.


2 posted on 05/09/2008 7:10:42 AM PDT by politicalwit (AKA... A Tradition Continues...Now a Hoosier Freeper)
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To: Bluegrass Federalist
An effort has begun to amend the Missouri Consitution to allow for photo ID.

This is really a bad idea.

Alienage and vote-fraud issues aside, it creates a real problem for persons trying to defend their fundamental rights in a host of situations. Consider:

As things stand now, you are who you are, and your rights are yours. They inure to you naturally and are yours to claim at any time and in all circumstances: arrest, tax challenges, indictment, casual police contacts, the voting booth.

If you add an ID card, your rights transfer from you to the card. You are no longer who YOU say you are -- you are who THE CARD says you are. This is huge. All your rights now revolve around, and flow from, your card. Your card has rights -- YOU don't.

Take away the card -- by trickery, natural disaster, crime, police oppression under color of authority -- and you yourself are toast. You are Esau, whining for your inheritance: you're out of luck because someone swapped you a bowl of pottage for your birthright. The supposed advantages of a voter ID card are that bowl of pottage.

Remember, totalitarian societies use ID's -- the hated "internal passport" Soviet and black South African citizens were required to carry on their persons 24/7/365 -- as a primary control device on people, and ID was always the first thing the KGB took away from a dissident Russian, to control his dissent.

Would you want Hillary to have a leash around your neck? How about a "Hillarycard", to claim your "Hillarycare" and your right to "Hillaryvote"?

Think about this before you screw it up for everyone.

4 posted on 05/09/2008 7:40:32 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus ("Whatever." -- sinkspur)
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To: Bluegrass Federalist

this is going to pass...people are tired of illegals having the “right” to vote....we also need to bring back literacy tests [in English]


7 posted on 05/09/2008 8:25:53 AM PDT by STONEWALLS
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Sweet. We could see another potential swing State secured against the Dimocrats!


8 posted on 05/09/2008 8:33:34 AM PDT by Titus Quinctius Cincinnatus (Here they come boys! As thick as grass, and as black as thunder!)
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To: Bluegrass Federalist

Not sure about this one. I know that when the conceal and carry law was passed, it only did so because it was brought to the voters after losing in the MO House and Senate. This might be something similiar. I do happen to support the ID issue.


9 posted on 05/09/2008 8:40:19 AM PDT by Hatheos
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The left wants me to show my ID when I buy a firearm, if that is good enough for them then, since voting is just as serious an exercise in rights, the left should not have any problem with having to show an ID to vote.


11 posted on 05/09/2008 9:40:45 AM PDT by theBuckwheat
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