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Austria cellar man 'mentally ill'
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Posted on 05/04/2008 11:22:39 AM PDT by austrian

Austria cellar man 'mentally ill'

Mr Fritzl claimed his daughter ran away to join a cult

Josef Fritzl, the Austrian man accused of abusing his imprisoned daughter for 24 years, should not go to jail as he is mentally ill, his lawyer says.

Rudolf Mayer says his client should be in a psychiatric unit rather than facing a trial, which will not be fair because of press coverage of the case.

Police say Mr Fritzl, 73, incarcerated and raped his daughter Elisabeth in his cellar in Amstetten in Lower Austria.

A relative of Mr Fritzl says he was convicted of another rape in 1967.

In a television interview for the Associated Press, Mr Fritzl's sister-in-law, identified only as Christine R, describes Mr Fritzl as a tyrant and said "I believe he spent a year and half in prison" for the conviction.

Josef Fritzl's sister-in-law talks about the family Police have declined to comment on the allegations, saying records that old would have been erased under Austria's statutes of limitation.

Under Austrian law convictions can be expunged after as little as five years.

'Diminished responsibility'

Mr Mayer has said that if, in his opinion, a psychiatric evaluation of Mr Fritzl ordered by the court does not give a proper assessment of his client he will consider ordering a separate report himself.

"In my personal opinion, Josef Fritzl is mentally ill and therefore of diminished responsibility. I believe that my client does not belong in prison but in a secure psychiatric unit," Mr Mayer told the German newspaper Bild am Sonntag.

He added that he is "not defending a monster but a human being, even if that is hard to take for some people. I am already receiving threatening letters saying that I belong in the cellar with Mr Fritzl."

Police say Elisabeth bore her father seven children - three of whom remained incarcerated with her, never seeing daylight until they were released earlier this week.

Mr Fritzl, who is in custody, has confessed to the crime in a written statement.

He is refusing to answer any more questions, as police try to piece together conditions in the cellar - as well as the suspect's life.

Mr Fritzl's alleged crimes came to light when Elisabeth's eldest daughter Kerstin, 19, became seriously ill.

She was allowed out of the cellar and admitted to hospital in Amstetten.

Police then issued an appeal to Elisabeth Fritzl to contact them about her daughter, and later picked up Mr Fritzl and Elisabeth near the hospital.

Elisabeth and the children are now in care with the Austrian authorities, who are protecting their privacy at a psychiatric clinic.

Kerstin is fighting for her life in hospital.


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KEYWORDS: austria; childabuse; fritzl; incest; mentalillness
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there it goes i was wondering how long it will take until a lawer will come to help this "poor poor" man against the evil police and courts in austria. sarcasm
1 posted on 05/04/2008 11:22:39 AM PDT by austrian
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He should have run off to join the FLDS in Texas, and then he’d have people coming out of the woodwork to defend him.


2 posted on 05/04/2008 11:24:36 AM PDT by livius
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Ever wonder whatever happened to the use of the word...evil?


3 posted on 05/04/2008 11:25:51 AM PDT by kjo
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To: austrian
Where is Captain Obvious when you need him?
4 posted on 05/04/2008 11:27:51 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islam is a religion of peace, and Muslims reserve the right to kill anyone who says otherwise.)
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does not belong in prison but in a secure psychiatric unit,"

He belongs in a 6 x 6 windowless cell - never see daylight again =

Obviously, he's not right in the head...what criminals are. Doesn't mean he should be coddled...it shouldn't be what is best for him - but punishment for what he inflicted on innocents

5 posted on 05/04/2008 11:28:29 AM PDT by maine-iac7 (Typical Gun-Toting, Jesus-Loving Gramma)
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.......Elisabeth and the children are now in care with the Austrian authorities, who are protecting their privacy at a psychiatric clinic.

I hope the authorities let the go outside occasionally


6 posted on 05/04/2008 11:32:37 AM PDT by Selmore (If your gonna take the hill, take the hill.)
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To: austrian
Calling MR. OBVIOUS
7 posted on 05/04/2008 11:36:41 AM PDT by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do it, but we're gonna getcha)
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He is clearly mentally ill.

He should be sent to prison for life or executed.

Or sentenced to live in the home of the attorney who is arguing that he shouldn’t go to prison.

The same way that I think Kennedy, Kerry, Schumer, Pelosi, Clinton(s), Reid, Durbin, etc., should be forced to live among the felons and illegal immigrants and pay DIRECTLY for their food, education, medical bills and ... suffer the crimes against their person and property that the masses suffer.


8 posted on 05/04/2008 11:37:20 AM PDT by whitedog57
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To: maine-iac7

He belongs in a 6 x 6 windowless cell - never see daylight again =


take away the tv and lock him in his own cellar. only open the door ever week to let in a gay 200 pound psycho wo will rape him every week. maybe but only maybe then he will have a little understanding what he has done.


9 posted on 05/04/2008 11:39:00 AM PDT by austrian
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What a crock. Scum like this is the reason why humans have a mob instinct.

This is a clear case (if there ever is one) for public trial, a prolonged stint in publically accessible stocks for convenient spitting on and cursing at, and unprotected bout in prison where the large hairy men can let him know how pedophilic, incestuous, torturing bastards should be treated, then if he survives that, a public execution with NO painkiller.

Call me old fashioned, but deeply evil people like this, Ted Bundy, Bin Laden, Hitler, etc. need to have at least a taste of the evil they have wrought. That’s called justice.


10 posted on 05/04/2008 11:41:35 AM PDT by VictoryGal (Never give up, never surrender!)
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I have no doubt he is mentally ill, but it should be no defense.


11 posted on 05/04/2008 11:43:14 AM PDT by MeanWestTexan (Kol Hakavod Mossad!)
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To: livius

Big difference between those two cases and for the record., I think this guy should be put down like a dog, mentally ill or not.


12 posted on 05/04/2008 11:45:05 AM PDT by Awestruck (All the usual suspects)
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I have no doubt he is mentally ill, but it should be no defense.

Even mentally ill people know the difference between right and wrong. Insanity is the plea when you don't know the difference between the two.

13 posted on 05/04/2008 11:48:33 AM PDT by Popman (Typical bitter white male clinging to my religion and guns......................)
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I don’t think he has diminished capacity as he knew what he was doing was wrong. He knew it was wrong because he kept it hidden.


14 posted on 05/04/2008 11:49:06 AM PDT by steveo (Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.)
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To: austrian
He added that he is "not defending a monster but a human being, even if that is hard to take for some people.

No, he is not human.

A bullet to his brain. He breathes my air. 

15 posted on 05/04/2008 11:49:09 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn (Help control the McCainiac population. Have them spayed or neutered.)
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This man is not “mentally ill”. He is evil.


16 posted on 05/04/2008 11:50:24 AM PDT by My hearts in London - Everett (I'd rather be single than wish I was.)
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To: austrian

Fry em! And find out who his accomplices were too!


17 posted on 05/04/2008 11:53:24 AM PDT by spanalot
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To: austrian

And so what? Time to stop using this as an excuse. No more insanity defenses. Too easy to fake and too many shrinks will say anything on the witness stand for $. End it.

Do the crime - Do the time. End of discussion.


18 posted on 05/04/2008 11:55:26 AM PDT by Seruzawa (A skeleton walks into a bar and asks for a beer and a mop.)
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To: JoJo Gunn

No, he is not human.

A bullet to his brain. He breathes my air


agreed this monster has lost all rights to be treated like a human beeing. but in my oppinion a bullet in the head would be a too easy way to slip away


19 posted on 05/04/2008 11:55:39 AM PDT by austrian
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He looked in total control of his mental facilities in the beach video of him in Thailand.

Whats next? All Austrian Nazis were mentally ill.


20 posted on 05/04/2008 11:55:39 AM PDT by eleni121 (EN TOUTO NIKA!! +)
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