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Supreme Court upholds photo ID law for voters in Indiana
AP ^ | Apr 28 | MARK SHERMAN

Posted on 04/28/2008 7:15:07 AM PDT by Aristotelian

WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court has ruled that states can require voters to produce photo identification without violating their constitutional rights. The decision validates Republican-inspired voter ID laws.

The court vote 6-3 to uphold Indiana's strict photo ID requirement. Democrats and civil rights groups say the law would deter poor, older and minority voters from casting ballots.

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Politics/Elections; US: Indiana
KEYWORDS: 2008; aliens; crawford; election; elections; photoid; ruling; scotus; supremecourt; voterfraud; voterid
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To: Aristotelian

Still, 3 justices think requiring photo ID is a bad idea. Unbelievable. We’ve got to do everything we can to make sure we don’t end up with even more of these loons on the court.


161 posted on 04/28/2008 2:01:12 PM PDT by John Jorsett (scam never sleeps)
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To: Aristotelian
The 3 dissenting votes were Breyer, Ginsburg and Souter and thats the only reason I'm voting for McCain.

I've read where Ginsburg would have resigned in 2004 if Kerry had somehow won, and you have to think Breyer or Souter may be holding out for a dim POTUS as well.

Which is actually funny in Souter's case because he was nominated by RR.

But for as big of a RINO as McCain is, he has pledged to appoint judges who are strict constitutionalists, and we need some with those qualifications to replace the likes of Ginsburg, who is a srict liberalist (just made that up, no copyright)

162 posted on 04/28/2008 2:05:59 PM PDT by libs_kma (The land of the free, because of the brave)
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To: Wolfstar
What it was supposed to be and what it became in practice are two different things.

The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986. "8 USC 1101 note" was never fully implemented. It is also worth noting that Ed Meese calls it a mistake and that the process was riddled with fraud. The USG estimated one million would apply and the real number turned out to be 3 million. Currently, the USG estimates that there are 12 million illegals

A little reading comprehension goes a long way. In my post I said it was defeated. In other words, it was a legislative victory for conservatives and others opposed to immigration "reform." I said that our republican form of government worked as designed, which it did, yet conservatives like you still whine.

And if/when it passes, you will say that our republican form of government worked. I guess anything that passes is vindication of the system for you. Did McCain-Feingold demonstrate that our republican form of government worked? Your reasoning is specious to say the least.

That immigration "reform" was defeated with a Republican in the White House and Republicans in larger numbers in Congress than would be the case under a President Obama or a President H. Clinton. To be blunt, conservatives would still have some influence if Republicans do better than predicted this fall. .

The bill was defeated despite having a Pro-amnesty President in the WH. If McCain is elected it will signal to the many RINOs in Congress, especially the Senate that there is no political price to pay for supporting amnesty. Many of the RINOs who voted against cloture in 2007, voted for amnesty in the 2006 bill. I spoke personally to Tom Coburn about his support of McCain and the possibility of amnesty. He said that he would fight McCain "tooth and nail" if he tried to get an amnesty. I responded that is well and good but the Dems control Congress and many Reps will go along to get along with McCain.

If we have a President Obama or President H. Clinton and huge Dem margins in Congress, nobody is going to listen to us.

If you mean by "us" conservatives, the same holds true with McCain. A McCain victory marginalizes the conservative influence in the GOP and will move the party further to the Left. The lesson is that you can win with a coalition of moderate Reps, independents, and conservative Dems.

Oh, puhleeese. Don't make yourself out to be a clueless moron. Conservatives across the country vigorously agitated against immigration "reform" using the wide range of ways citizens have at their disposal to influence legislation -- from calling in to talk radio, to emails, phone calls and letters to their congress critters, to blogs and opinion pieces, to posting on web forums such as FR.

What did you do personally, bub? Are you one of those keyboard commandos who like to claim credit for the sunrise? I have spent many hours and money trying to stop amnesty, which will destroy this country. Are you involved in any grassroots level organizations? I am. What have you done at the state and local level? I have attended hearings and lobbied the state legislature to pass bills? I have supported local candidates supporting my position handing out literature door to door. I have attended town meetings confronting elected officials about their stance on manesty and immigration. And I have been doing it prior to these bills being introduced in the Senate. That's what I meant by a mouse in your pocket, you moron.

Those bills included fines and other provisions that put at least nominal strings on a "path" to citizenship. The Marxist Democrats that would sweep into office with Obama or Clinton wouldn't even do that much. Most of them want to erase all borders.

You can't be that clueless. The 1986 Reagan amnesty bill actually contained many of the same provisions and was actually more retrictive on who could apply for amnesty, e.g., you had to have entered the United States before January 1, 1982. The 2006 Senate bill required just 2 years and the 2007 bill, McCain-Kennedy, required presence in the US before January 1, 2007. The bills are getting less restrictive.

Obama and Hillary and McCain signed the 2006 Secure Fence Act. They all pay lip service to securing the border and getting to the back of the line when it comes to citizenship. Obama and Hillary voted for the amnesty bills McCain had a major role in writing. If you think that a Hillary/Obama amnesty would be any different than a McCain bill, you are buying the McCain spin. You are talking thru your hat.

Poll: Voters Unaware of Candidates’ Immigration Positions McCain Supporters Farthest Off the Mark

163 posted on 04/28/2008 2:20:24 PM PDT by kabar
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To: kabar
You are talking thru your hat.

Mark my words. If Obama or Clinton are elected and they bring large numbers of congressional Dems with them into office, 100% of the things conservatives have been striving for will be either be dead or undone.

McCain is a breathtakingly flawed Republican candidate, but as much as it pains me to say so, he is all we have standing between us and our first genuine Marxist government.

164 posted on 04/28/2008 2:38:39 PM PDT by Wolfstar (Politics is the ultimate excercise in facing reality and making hard choices.)
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To: libs_kma
Souter was actually appointed by George H.W. Bush, not Reagan. Actually, until Planned Parenthood v. Casey, he was one of the more conservative members of the Court.
165 posted on 04/28/2008 2:43:41 PM PDT by The Pack Knight (Duty, Honor, Country.)
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To: Prokopton
He clearly thinks Alito is "too" conservative.

McCain voted FOR Alito. And Roberts. And Clarence Thomas. Obama voted against them, as did Hillary.

166 posted on 04/28/2008 3:04:56 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: libs_kma
I'm a one issue voter myself, and that's the Supreme Court.

Anyone but Obama or Hillary. Anyone.

167 posted on 04/28/2008 3:07:32 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in - Michael Corleone)
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To: NordP
Southern Cal has been surrendered San Fran south to the border. Mexican operatives are now in control of local and state government.

The western front has moved to Phoenix where Sheriff Joe is the American commander.

168 posted on 04/28/2008 3:11:12 PM PDT by purpleraine
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To: Abathar

I’ve never seen a picture of her with her eyes open. Usually she’s fast asleep at the bench. Old fool.


169 posted on 04/28/2008 3:14:26 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Bush_Democrat
If we can get two more justices appointed, we just might be able to turn this country back from the liberal edge.

Agreed. Stevens is as old a dirt (even though he went the right way on this one), and Ginsberg is just holding on for a dem president. I think it's likely both of them will retire, either voluntarily or through God's will, in the next four years.

170 posted on 04/28/2008 3:16:30 PM PDT by hsalaw
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To: Experiment 6-2-6

Demonrats hardest hit!


171 posted on 04/28/2008 3:22:16 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (US Constitution Article 4 Section 4..shall protect each of them against Invasion...domestic Violence)
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To: calex59

This may go off track, but fingerprints are the next step to 666 stamped on foreheads or hands... I’d rather bring my ss card, my birth certificate and a proof of residence each time than submit myself to that. I don’t even like the fact that the government uses social security numbers the way they do. This whole situation is scary, once I start to think at the implications.


172 posted on 04/28/2008 3:46:38 PM PDT by republicanequestrian
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To: zendari; 1035rep; MAK1179; briansb
"That’s simply historically inacurrate."

"Alito and Roberts were both chosen by President Bush"

Alito and Roberts were Bush's SECOND choice after Harriet Miers. What else do you need to know?

173 posted on 04/28/2008 3:53:35 PM PDT by Lloyd227 (and may God bless Oriana Fallaci)
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To: Aristotelian

I find this interesting:

“...the fact that the State has not come across a single instance of in-person voter impersonation fraud in all of Indiana’s history.”


174 posted on 04/28/2008 3:55:48 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Experiment 6-2-6
Well it ain't the NY Slimes but it is the AP, so close enough:

Advocates: Voter ID ruling may disenfranchise US voters

175 posted on 04/28/2008 3:59:12 PM PDT by paltz
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To: July4
Will somebody please explain to me why minority races, poor people, and older persons would be less likely to vote if photographic ID’s are required at the polls.

One reason given by Justice Souter is the burden of the trip to the office to get an ID, if the person does not have transportation. He said that the absentee ballot doesn't cover it, though, because the person can't get help unless he goes to the polls. So if he can get to the polls, why can't he get an ID?

I'm curious about what people think this decision will do, though. They evidently couldn't produce evidence that there's impersonation of voters going on...so how does the ID requirement stop anything? That is, what's the fraud that's actually going on--and how would requiring ID stop it?

176 posted on 04/28/2008 4:00:10 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Lloyd227

Alito and Roberts were both appointed by President Bush. It was a good decision. Get over it.


177 posted on 04/28/2008 4:00:38 PM PDT by 1035rep
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To: calex59
In my personal opinion, all voters should be fingerprinted the first time they register, we have the technology to do so, heck, you don't even need to get ink on your fingers now with the electronic machines they have.

You scare me!

178 posted on 04/28/2008 4:07:03 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: livius
All over the country, the Dems are dragging out winos from the local hobo jungle and giving the identities of long-dead grannies.

Um...why not just have them vote under their own names?

179 posted on 04/28/2008 4:09:58 PM PDT by Gondring (I'll give up my right to die when hell freezes over my dead body!)
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To: Aristotelian
Common sense prevails.

Yes, it usually does.

If only you could have heard the whining and crying about disenfranchisement from the Democrats here in Indiana prior to the last few elections we have had. I know they will still find ways to cheat, but they have been dealt a huge blow with this ruling.

Hopefully all other states will enact the photo ID law.
180 posted on 04/28/2008 4:13:52 PM PDT by JACKRUSSELL
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