Posted on 04/26/2008 2:08:35 AM PDT by Impy
FORT WAYNE, INDIANA - Throughout her life, Linda Eggert, a 51-year-old stay-at-home mother, has been a staunch Republican. But on May 6, when the marathon Democratic primary comes to Indiana, Eggert will cast her ballot for Hillary Clinton. more stories like this
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"Everybody is kind of rethinking their politics because of everything that is going on," Eggert said, citing her growing concerns about Iraq and the economy. She added, "Do I think [Indiana] could go Democrat for once in November? I hope it could."
Long an afterthought in presidential politics, Indiana Democrats - who haven't delivered their state in the general election since 1964, and haven't had a meaningful say in picking their party's nominee since 1968 - see the growing excitement over the contest between Clinton and Barack Obama as an opportunity to build up muscle in places where the party's national reach had atrophied.
The interest in the Clinton-Obama fight, they say, is helping to shift political identities. Thousands of people are signing up as new voters - 383,954 Hoosiers have registered since the 2006 election - while some people who have always voted Republican are deciding that they might just be comfortable casting a ballot for a Democrat.
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Neighboring Ohio and Michigan face this situation as well.
Illinois has no problem like that. The Dems there control the state simply by ramping up their vote fraud machinery. If the Dem factions are having a hissy-fit the Reps might win some every now and then, but usually only with someone who ends up in prison, or who ought to have gone there.
My prediction is that Indiana Reps will vote in the Dem primary in record numbers, and mostly AGAINST the Hildabeast.
The Republicans who registered as Democrats in Pennsylvania DID vote more for Obama than Clinton, despite Operation Chaos’ claims. Check the exit polls (unless Rush’s instructions were to lie to the exit pollsters and tell them that they weren’t supporting Hillary, which seems counterproductive and not anything I heard him suggest).
Also, talk with committeemen about how many Republicans in Pennsylvania were switching to vote for Hillary because they want her instead of McCain.
It’s not all good news and Operation Chaos, if it’s anything like Pennsylvania. But Rush is a good showman, and I think much of the effect is intangible, not in the actual votes.
LOL!
Fortunately the MSM wants to believe and to proliferate the ‘Republicans see the light and worship Obama’ story.
Also fortunately, it appears that the Dems, candidates, & party leaders, prefer to read the MSM articles and remain unaware of the media that they should be reading.
“not anything I heard him suggest).”
I heard him tell people to lie about who they voted for.
John Edwards has about 29 pledged delegates, and his name will be placed in nomination at the convention. If things remain the same until then, it will be very tempting for many superdelegates to throw their vote to him, thus avoiding a first ballot suicide vote, and empowering all the delegates to vote for whomever they prefer on the second ballot.
Maybe, but if it's not called the "democrat party" where does that leave traditional democrat voters? They are not used to calling themselves "Workers World Party" or "Progressives" or "Socialists"
How much of that is Soros money? Internet contributions can be gamed, get some hackers to set up some robots that repeatedly give 20 dollar contributions, bunch of phony credit cards from some Soros front bank.
“they’re not used to calling themselves ‘workers world party’ or ‘progressives’ of ‘socialists’.”
do you mean that there will be no other alternative than to take on the name of what the old democrat party represented?; socialism,collectivism,progressivism,revolution? would they be so silly as to state what and who they are or would they still have to have a blind in which to hide and subvert another policital party for “the children”?
“reagan democrats and such will peel off, giving the gop the victory at the margins, where elections are fought and won.”
i often wondered how a reagan democrat could vote for any of the collectivist thugs in the democrat party. could it be that there aren’t many of them left? i don’t think there are and i think a victory at the margins is not possible because of that and that hillary will be the shoe in regardless of democrat party divisions; the divisions aren’t really deep. it’s really a family fight, where outsiders are not welcome and in the end the family will be even more close than before.
Hillary’s negatives are above 50%. She cannot win any more than Obama can.
In fact, according to head to head polls with McCain, Obama fairs several points better than Hillary.
Anyways, the best way to defeat either candidate is to split their coalition, and the best way to split their coalition is a protracted and ugly fight that goes all the way to the convention. A split coalition guarantees neither of them can win, regardless of which one gets the nomination in the end.
i often wondered how a reagan democrat could vote for any of the collectivist thugs in the democrat party.Because most of them are union members which means they are collectivist thugs themselves.
Swallowing whole the false premise that there is somehow a problem with the Iraq effort. God bless our troops, and have mercy on America.
There are some parts of the state where Republicans have contested races in the primaries, those areas should not be doing Operation Chaos. My congressman, and the state senator have challengers plus several local races.
BTW Andre Carson [ Julia Carson’s grandson ] won a special election recently, but the Indy Star says he has six challengers in the primary, and some of them have more money than he does. Maybe one of them will knock him out. That would be a good place for Operation Chaos.
I wouldn’t be too concerned.
While Democrats are also allowed to vote in the Republican primary in Indiana, they are all going to be voting in their own, instead. That much we can be sure of. So there is no way they can corrupt the Republican races.
One thing that is interesting to know is that even small samples within a given community will reflect larger voting patterns of that community. That is why opinion polls work with a fairly high degree of accuracy. The difficult part in scientific polling is getting the mix of different communities and demographics right. Since we know the vote in the GOP primary races will be 100% from the Republican community, we can rest assured that the sample will be intact and produce the same margins, regardless of the size of voter participation.
So in other words, Republicans don’t need to worry about voting in GOP congressional races. The incumbents are all pretty much guaranteed to win regardless of turnout. There will still be some Republicans not participating in Operation Chaos, and they will produce the same margins as would be produced by a larger GOP turnout.
So Republicans are free to participate in Operation Chaos and vote for Hillary, where their votes will actually count, because working together in large numbers, they will greatly augment Hillary’s margin.
See, if you remove half of the the votes from GOP congressional races, the candidates will still receive statistically the same percentages. But if you introduce a a 50% increase to the Democrat turnout, with all of these voters heavily biased towards one candidate instead of breaking down statistically within the typical Democrat margin, then you can spoil the sample and greatly distort the vote count, which will result in creating a ripple effect, sending the Democrats’ entire political process into Chaos.
So do not worry about the GOP races, they are safe and secure, and help Rush the Vote for Hillary instead.
It has been a while since I lived in Indiana.
Hoosiers do tend to be very conservative. Most of the state is like the "T" in PA, but with no Philadelphia or Pittsburgh to tip the scales. Even Indianapolis is fairly conservative for a big city. Ever see the movie, "Hoosiers" staring Gene Hackman? Although small town life has changed, it hasn't changed that much. Indiana hasn't been hit as hard as Ohio by outsourcing, et al. On the national level, they've gone reliably Republican for decades.
Hoosiers are people who love their country and would never tolerate anyone slandering it. Obama's gonna have his head handed to him in IN unless Op Chaos voters decide they want him instead of Hilly.
There's one wild card in the national election this time. Evan Bayh, the former dem Senator, is hugely popular in Indiana. He's a big Hilly supporter. He will pull in a lot of dem votes for the Beast. I don't think he could tip the state to blue, but he might be able to cut the margin to 5 points if he were made V.P. candidate. This would only help is Hillary is the nominee. Indiana will NEVER vote for an America-hater like Obama.
It has been a while since I lived in Indiana.
Hoosiers do tend to be very conservative. Most of the state is like the "T" in PA, but with no Philadelphia or Pittsburgh to tip the scales. Even Indianapolis is fairly conservative for a big city. Ever see the movie, "Hoosiers" staring Gene Hackman? Although small town life has changed, it hasn't changed that much. Indiana hasn't been hit as hard as Ohio by outsourcing, et al. On the national level, they've gone reliably Republican for decades.
Hoosiers are people who love their country and would never tolerate anyone slandering it. Obama's gonna have his head handed to him in IN unless Op Chaos voters decide they want him instead of Hilly.
There's one wild card in the national election this time. Evan Bayh, the former dem Senator, is hugely popular in Indiana. He's a big Hilly supporter. He will pull in a lot of dem votes for the Beast. I don't think he could tip the state to blue, but he might be able to cut the margin to 5 points if he were made V.P. candidate. This would only help is Hillary is the nominee. Indiana will NEVER vote for an America-hater like Obama.
Exactly
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