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New atom-smasher could fill gaps in scientific knowledge -- or open a black hole
ny times ^ | 4/14/08 | John Johnson

Posted on 04/14/2008 5:29:17 PM PDT by Flavius

GENEVA -- Michelangelo L. Mangano, a respected particle physicist who helped discover the top quark in 1995, now spends most days trying to convince people that his new machine won't destroy the world.

"If it were just crackpots, we could wave them away," the physicist said in an interview at the European Organization for Nuclear Research, known by its French acronym, CERN. "But some are real physicists."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antimatter; blackhole; cern; higgsboson; higgsparticle; largehadroncollider; mangano; matter; michelangelolmangano; particlephysics; particles; physics; science
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1 posted on 04/14/2008 5:29:17 PM PDT by Flavius
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To: Flavius

This news is simply smashing. :)


2 posted on 04/14/2008 5:30:29 PM PDT by EveningStar
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To: Flavius

Whomever wrote this article obviously read too many Spiderman comics when he was a kid.


3 posted on 04/14/2008 5:33:06 PM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts.....)
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To: Flavius

If all goes as planned, scientists say, the new collider is likely to become one of the greatest engines of discovery in history, far outstripping the Apollo moon missions and even Charles Darwin’s monumental voyage aboard the Beagle.


4 posted on 04/14/2008 5:34:05 PM PDT by Flavius (war gives peace its security)
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To: Flavius

bump


5 posted on 04/14/2008 5:35:18 PM PDT by Captain Beyond (The Hammer of the gods! (Just a cool line from a Led Zep song))
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To: Flavius

I’m no particle physicist, but I seriously doubt they’re going to open a black hole.


6 posted on 04/14/2008 5:35:40 PM PDT by TheWasteLand
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To: Flavius

Well, if we all get destroyed we won’t have to worry about the election. There’s a silver lining in every situation.


7 posted on 04/14/2008 5:35:52 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Flavius

There goes the neighb


8 posted on 04/14/2008 5:36:59 PM PDT by 668 - Neighbor of the Beast
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To: Flavius

“greatest engines of discovery”

A very apt description for the SC.

I like it.


9 posted on 04/14/2008 5:37:01 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: TheWasteLand

“’m no particle physicist, but I seriously doubt they’re going to open a black hole.”

Well... maybe. But... It will be really, really small.

So small, maybe only a Quark could get through.


10 posted on 04/14/2008 5:39:41 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Just saying what 'they' won't.)
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To: Flavius
I read that Steven Hawking, the head of the physics department at Cambridge
university in the U.K., said that black holes have no hair.
Well maybe they have a beard/sarc...
11 posted on 04/14/2008 5:40:29 PM PDT by machenation ("it can't happen here" Frank Zappa)
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To: Bean Counter
K-9 is doing a fine job of keeping black holes in check. Sarah Jane Smith checks on him every so often. Affection noted..
12 posted on 04/14/2008 5:42:02 PM PDT by wally_bert (Tactical Is Still Missing A Chair!)
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To: Flavius

The evaporation rate of a black hole goes up steeply as they get smaller. Even if they make one, it won’t have much mass at all (the collider works with individual ions in a vacuum, so collisions are between things with an atom-scaled mass).

It would evaporate very quickly, if Hawking et al are to be believed.

The “make a black hole” fear is common- PBFA I at Sandia was supposed to make one, then PBFA II, then when PBFA II converted over to Z, that was going to make a black hole.

The big laser for fusion research, RHIC at Brookhaven, there are probably fifty more black hole threatmakers.

That’s why I don’t go public with the project I’m doing in the spare bedroom, I don’t want angry villagers with torches outside.


13 posted on 04/14/2008 5:43:10 PM PDT by DBrow
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"If it were just crackpots, we could wave them away. But some are real physicists."

That's not very reassuring.

14 posted on 04/14/2008 5:47:14 PM PDT by D-fendr (Deus non alligatur sacramentis sed nos alligamur.)
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To: Flavius
Can a black hole become President of the United States?..
I'm at a loss here.. Can a black hole absorb anything left of this republic?..
Three strange particles are absorbing all the political sound bites..
I'm con'CERN'ed..
15 posted on 04/14/2008 5:48:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (CAUTION: This propaganda is laced with hyperbole....)
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"If it were just crackpots, we could wave them away," ... "But some are real physicists."

Having no science degree himself, whatsoever, AlBore should credit his environmental detractors the same way. "But some are REAL scientists!"

16 posted on 04/14/2008 5:56:23 PM PDT by moonman
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To: DBrow
If I recall correctly, Woit in "Not Even Wrong", speculated that a super-colliders probably already created black holes that couldn't maintain their mass and disappeared -unrecognized- immediately.

You can't create a tidal wave in a bathtub.

17 posted on 04/14/2008 5:57:40 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Flavius

If thet made a “Black Hole”
it would evaporate in microseconds

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation


18 posted on 04/14/2008 6:00:42 PM PDT by HangnJudge
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To: Flavius

WE’RE ALL GONNA DIE!!


19 posted on 04/14/2008 6:04:22 PM PDT by colorado tanker (Number nine, number nine, number nine . . .)
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To: Cementjungle

Maybe the black hole will just swallow up Washington.


20 posted on 04/14/2008 6:04:29 PM PDT by Cuchulain ("...never treat with the enemy; never surrender to his mercy, but fight to the finish.")
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