Posted on 04/09/2008 8:05:24 PM PDT by metmom
SAN ANGELO, Texas — Teenage girls, often younger than 16, were required to have sex in the soaring white temple after they were married in sect-recognized unions at a polygamist compound in West Texas, according to court documents unsealed Wednesday.
The temple "contains an area where there is a bed where males over the age of 17 engage in sexual activity with female children under the age of 17," said an affidavit quoting a confidential informant who left the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints.
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Good point.
All the boys and girls all had long sleeves. That has to be uncomfortable in the Texas sun.
I don’t know, but I am a born again Christian, and as I do believe in God, then I think that maybe He just allowed it to come out now because their cup got full of their own iniquities, and now they get it poured back out on them.
God seems to work like that. People think they are getting away with things cause nothing seems to happen when they commit evil things against humanity, and then one day it all comes crashing down on them, sort of like Hillary Clinton’s fall, you know?
“Poor children! Sex slaves one and all. Not allowed out, brainwashed to believe that ‘god’ would burn them in hell forever if they did not ‘submit’”
Kind of sounds like some _other_ “religion”, eh?
- John
I don’t know why you say that. Are you Mormon and think it will reflect badly on your church?
WOW!!! What a stunningly idiotic comment. These are plural marriages. The young girls in question are wife number 4, 5 or 6 (or more) and ONLY THE FIRST MARRIAGE IS LEGAL...the subsequent marriages are 'spiritual' only. BIGAMY IS AGAINS THE LAW IN THE US! When you couple in the underage status of the subsequent wifes you get Statutory Rape.
They don’t consider it holy per say.
They ride in cars. They don’t think they are holy for not having cars.
They don’t want to change, a lot of them think that living the way they do keeps them from all the temptations that are in the world.
If someone banned you for making a comment to me, then I would get VERY UPSET!
I am simply asking some questions, in a effort to protect other American citizens.
I am 53 years old and have two daughters. Do you think I would not be upset if something like this happened to my little girls?
However, I am much more worried about what our government will do to them in the future, if we do not keep it under control.
Yeah...I have been around some, and have only admiration for them -and I like comfy clothes:)
Only if the women consent to the marriage.
Forcing a under 18 year old girl into a sexual relationship with a married man old enough to be her grandfather is pedophilia and rape. It’s adultery, plain and simple.
Eighteen is about the age a girl becomes a biological woman. Just because the changes BEGIN at about 13, doesn’t mean that she’s even nearly done growing and a girl that young is in NO WAY near being physically ready to bear children.
Having children before the age of about 18 is very damaging to a girl’s body. They are not ready for it even if it’s physically possible for them to become pregnant.
WOW, you have been on this stuff a long time, May 2007?
Friday, May 11, 2007 1:08:31 PM · 13 of 13
RC51 to Eleua; Belteshazzar
Secondly:
God did not permit polygamy because of, in your words, “the hardness of men’s hearts”. Your confused with Matt 19:7-8. They are talking about Divorce following adultery there, Not polygamy.
God obviously hated Divorce MORE than poligamy because he specifically said how much he hated Divorce. “For I hate divorce, says the LORD, the God of Israel” Malachi 2:16
Please give me a bible verse where god refers to the practice of polygamy as something he “Hated”. I’m waiting...
If you want specific verses that demonstrates how tolerable polygamy was refer to Deuteronomy 21:15-17. “If a man with two wives .... he is the first fruits of his manhood, and to him belong the rights of the first-born.” This verse spells out how inheritance will work, even under polygamy.
Or how about Exodus 21:10? “If he takes another wife, he shall not withhold her food, her clothing, or her conjugal rights.” You know Exodus, the chapter of the old testament the spells out God’s Law on Slavery; allowing it by the way.
There are many others but I’ve think I’ve proven my point.
Ok ok - this is Old Testament, and they were backward Jews; Jesus came and set it all straight right? Wrong. Read Matthew Chapter 25:1-13. Jesus is compared to a single bridegroom set to marry 10 women. 5 of which were unprepared and were locked out of their wedding. You have it right there, Jesus Christ being put in a polygamist parable by Matthew. It doesn’t get much clearer than that.
Polygamy was NOT a sin in the Old Testament or New Testament. God provided laws for practicing it and Jesus did not admonish it like what was done with divorce. Now unlike early Mormans 120 years ago, I wouldn’t go as far as to say God commanded polygamy, allowed it ... YES. But I see no biblical basis for calling it a sin. I believe polygamy should be against the law for many reasons, NONE of them religious.
The fact remains that polygamy was a part of early Christian and Jewish religions.
BTW Anyone who believes in the divinity of JESUS CHRIST and accepts him as their prophet sent to save their soul has the right to call themselves Christians. Even people who practice Christianity outside the mainstream, they may be radicalized, they may be cultist, they may be moderate or watered down; But they are still Christian. Who are you to cast the first stone and judge them otherwise?
Mitt Romney is a Christian like you and I. He just also happens to be a Mormon Christian. And like 99.9% of Mormans out there (LDS, RLDS ect) Romney finds polygamy a horrible thing.
I gotta admit this country is fouled up when this gets the kind of reaction it does, but 38 yr old female teachers doing the same sort of thing to 14 year old males is a slap on the wrist.
The only thing we are missing in this story to really make it explode is race.
You talking to me? Okay, but I pointedly avoided saying anything about either polygamy, Amish or Mennonites. Nevertheless, I could go back to the 1800's and feel quite at home.
Have you thought about the fact that 11, 12 and 13 year old girls aren’t ready for a sexual relationship. It hurts them physically as well as mentally for the rest of their lives.
Historically, the age of 18 is a rather modern invention.
It is amazing how humans survived for thousands of years, before we created our modern laws!
You are comparing regulatory control of alcohol sales with the right not to be raped?
You seem to put your fear of what the government might do, ahead of what the government should do, as in rescuing these children.
Many of our ancestors (including Barack Hussein Obama’s on both sides) owned slaves. Does that make us all cruel, racist slavers? Judging someone by what their great grandfather did is something we normally don’t do in America. Are you proposing we start? Oh, btw, no, I’m not a Mormon.
While doing research at a major teaching hospital on child abuse, I found it was easy to trace back abusiveness in many successive generations all the way back to the civil war.
If this story is true it is about abuse of power.
Its a two way street, young men are taken advantage of all the time by slick women
There is absolutely nothing similar between the Amish (and Mennonites) and this cult. Period. The Amish live within in the laws of the United States of America...they do not practice plural marriage now (nor have they ever). The Amish are self reliant people and do now accept welfare so they are incapable of practicing welfare fraud (by producing multiple generations of illegitimate children).
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