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Revered Jeremiah Wright, "former Muslim" (?!)
THe New Republic ^ | March 07 | Ryan Lizza

Posted on 04/07/2008 2:29:18 PM PDT by Timeout

Today I came across this year-old, largely biographical article about Barack Obama. It reads as though Lizza relied on Obama for large chunks of the piece, with other material coming from his books and interviews with those who knew him.

About 2/3's down the page, I came across this astonishing nugget:

After many lectures like this, Obama decided to take a second look at Wright's church. Older pastors warned him that Trinity was for "Buppies"--black urban professionals--and didn't have enough street cred. But Wright was a former Muslim and black nationalist who had studied at Howard and Chicago, and Trinity's guiding principles--what the church calls the "Black Value System"--included a "Disavowal of the Pursuit of Middleclassness.'"
Wright is a "former Muslim"?!

I've never seen this anywhere else. Where did Lizza get it....from Obama? From Wright (whom he apparently interviewed)?

Have any of you ever heard that before?


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KEYWORDS: blackmuslims; elections; exmuslims; gdamerica; islam; jeremiahwright; louisfarrakhan; muslim; nationofislam; noi; obama; obamatruthfile; obamawright; tucc; wright; wrightwingconspiracy
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1 posted on 04/07/2008 2:29:18 PM PDT by Timeout
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To: Timeout

Probably a disciple of Calypso Louie


2 posted on 04/07/2008 2:30:21 PM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Timeout

BTTT


3 posted on 04/07/2008 2:34:26 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: Timeout

BTTT


4 posted on 04/07/2008 2:34:54 PM PDT by pyx (Rule#1.The LEFT lies.Rule#2.See Rule#1. IF THE LEFT CONTROLS THE LANGUAGE, IT CONTROLS THE ARGUMENT.)
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To: pissant

Yup! Just switched to where he saw a better cash-flow!


5 posted on 04/07/2008 2:36:58 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ("Don't touch that thing")
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To: Timeout
The Muslim perspective is that there is no such thing as a "former Muslim". He is an apostate Muslim. Islamic law demands the death penalty for that offense.
6 posted on 04/07/2008 2:37:35 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: pissant

Well, he practically worships Louis, so probably so.


7 posted on 04/07/2008 2:39:06 PM PDT by Southerngl
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To: Timeout
Hmmm. This would explain his affinity for Farrakhan. It also squares with the fact that whatever Wright is preaching, it's not Christianity. Add another possible former Muslim to the picture and things get very interesting indeed.

Wright's "church" could be taqiyaa (Nation of Islam flavor) on a commercial scale (and typical white people would never suspect a thing).

8 posted on 04/07/2008 2:41:44 PM PDT by Charles Martel (The Tree of Liberty thirsts.)
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To: Timeout

bump


9 posted on 04/07/2008 2:41:45 PM PDT by lesser_satan
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To: Timeout

These people must be Muslims operating under a false “Christian” conversion in order to come into power under the radar.


10 posted on 04/07/2008 2:42:33 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Timeout
I've also seen posts here on FR in reference to the "church's" website...According to their own web site (since deleted IIRC) , some of their members are MOSLEM. Now, why would moslems regularly attend a Christian church, unless....

No, I don't have a link. I saw an article on that here a few days ago (say, 03/17-03/25) and some posts that referred to it, but I didn't save the link, and I've since deleted my browsing history. If you're interested, maybe someone here will post a link.

11 posted on 04/07/2008 2:43:07 PM PDT by Verloona Ti
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To: Timeout
I guess I wasn't far off the mark when I started calling him the “Imam” wright.

Incredible...

12 posted on 04/07/2008 2:43:50 PM PDT by Dr.Zoidberg (Mohammedanism - Bringing you only the best of the 6th century for fourteen hundred years.)
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To: Myrddin

“The Muslim perspective is that there is no such thing as a “former Muslim”. He is an apostate Muslim. Islamic law demands the death penalty for that offense.”

That would apply to Obama as well being born of a Muslim father.


13 posted on 04/07/2008 2:44:37 PM PDT by Walvoord
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To: Timeout

Check out this website http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1998112/posts Put this on every website you can. People need to know what this guy is all about.


14 posted on 04/07/2008 2:44:43 PM PDT by RC2
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To: Myrddin
Technically, if he was a “Nation of Islam” black muslim then he is not considered apostate because “Black Islam” is not considered by real muslims to be real Islam at all. Real Islam has nothing to do with being black. Barack Hussein is not a real Christian any more than Farrakhan is a real muslim.
15 posted on 04/07/2008 2:47:24 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Timeout

Muslim congressman speaks at symposium

(http://www.southtownstar.com/news/881002,040708ellison.article)

April 7, 2008

By Michael Drakulich, Staff Writer

The first Muslim elected to U.S. Congress shared some of his experiences as an elected official with those who hope to follow in his footsteps one day.

Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) was keynote speaker at the Muslim Youth Leadership Symposium, hosted by the Chicago office of the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

The symposium was held at the Mosque Foundation Community Center, 7260 W. 93rd St., in Bridgeview.

The two-day event brought together Muslim high school students from the area to inspire them to use their faith values toward constructive citizenship, benefiting their communities and country.

Ellison told the 100 or so students in the audience being in a position of leadership means not only recognizing problems, but finding the solutions to them. And he said it would be up to them to build cultural understanding.

He encouraged students to look within themselves and embrace the challenges they face as Muslims, even if those challenges seem unfair.

“You’ve been given a gift, an opportunity to face adversity with courage, with patience, with the assistance of prayer. And to come out on the other side of it more successful than you were before. Find out about things about yourself you didn’t know before,” he said.

Ellison told of the adversity he’s faced as a Muslim such as during his run for Congress when Robert Fine, brother of his opponent Alan Fine, called him a terrorist.

During such trying times, he received support from his family and friends during the campaign. He said it was his faith that helped carry him.

He said teachings in the Koran could help the racial divide in America. And he encouraged students to embrace and answer questions about their faith, even if those questions seem repetitive.

“Let’s use what we have, what our faith is all about, to help America get over the barrier of racial division and false barriers based on color,” he said.

Ellison went on to say if more people knew of what Islam had to teach, the controversy created by statements from presidential candidate Barack Obama’s former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah Wright, might not have occurred.

Ellison took questions from the audience. At one point, he was asked whether Republican presidential candidate John McCain should be forgiven for saying he would never vote for a Muslim presidential candidate.

He reiterated Islam’s teaching of mercy.

“That’s what it means to be Muslim. To want the best for everyone, even if they want to chop you up into little pieces,” he said.

Michael Drakulich can be reached at mdrakulich@southtownstar.com or (708) 802-8841.

What a load of BS from another Obama politician


16 posted on 04/07/2008 2:47:31 PM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Timeout

Makes sense. Wright’s rants are virtually indistinghuisable from those of Muslim black nationalists. A Christian, he isn’t. ...and neither is B-HO.


17 posted on 04/07/2008 2:48:08 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Timeout
I'm pretty sure Religion "as we know it" has nothing to do with any of these characters. A Church is just a building to meet at and talk grievances against people they perceive are holding them back.

Christian, Muslim, Black Muslim, whatever it takes.

18 posted on 04/07/2008 2:56:12 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: Timeout
Alinsky's contribution to community organizing was to create a set of rules, a clear-eyed and systemic approach that ordinary citizens can use to gain public power.

I would suggest that Conservatives need to learn how to gain public power. It is something that is clearly lacking in our mindset. I'm not all that familiar with Saul Alinsky; I know that Hillary Clinton was a devotee of his. And now we find out Obama was. Whatever. We need to rip a page out of their playbook (maybe even the whole book) and read it, study it, learn it, and apply it. Why are Conservatives so LAZY??? No wonder the Liberals are rolling over us, and changing our society daily. They're changing our society, and we're letting them. This forum is good for an exchange of ideas. But I'm coming to the conclusion that we're just talking amongst ourselves and not DOING anything. We're not out in the real word WHERE IT COUNTS. The Libs are organized, they've got playbooks, they've got power. What do we have?

19 posted on 04/07/2008 3:00:59 PM PDT by my_pointy_head_is_sharp (Stop all the motors! Ch! Ch!)
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To: KeyLargo

Really, I think he meant to say “to want the best for everyone, even if you have to chop them up into little pieces.”


20 posted on 04/07/2008 3:07:31 PM PDT by webheart
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