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Need help outing a "fake" war hero. (says he flew at Toko-Ri @ age 15/won Navy Cross).
03 APR 08
| dcbryan1
Posted on 04/03/2008 9:35:22 AM PDT by DCBryan1
I have an co-worker who is older, and completely full of crap. His birthday is May 02, 1937, making him 14-17 at the time of the Korean War.
He has told stories that are unbelievable to clients who, if they find out, could hurt our business. My boss approached me since I am military and asked me to find out how I can get documentation that we can print up in the coffee room to "out him" as a "stolen valor" type of guy.
The latest news is that he won the Navy Cross in 1952 (when he was 15-16) when flying missions over Korea.
My questions are:
Isn't there a "stolen valor" law? And does it only pertain to wearing the uniform, or does it encompass verbal attestations?
Is there an unclassified way to look up someones war records or a datatbase with Navy Cross recipients as there is with the CMOH?
How would you handle the situation? (My first reaction, as a veteran, is an ass stomping of an old man, but I think humility and shunning would be much more appropriate IMHO).
My boss, myself, and co-workers are simply sick of his BS and would like to enlist your sources on the subject.
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Arkansas; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: fakehero; fraud; stolenvalor
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To: Loud Mime
121
posted on
04/07/2008 5:23:57 PM PDT
by
IM2MAD
To: WakeUpAndVote
Yeah, I can't remember which though. I'm thinking I heard him say Essex or Oriskany. I will let you know...thats a good way to pin him down ;)
122
posted on
04/07/2008 5:29:44 PM PDT
by
DCBryan1
(Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Lockup child molesters RFN!)
To: DCBryan1
I think he’s telling the truth, I was his co-pilot. ask him if he remembers ol’ isom35.
123
posted on
04/07/2008 5:30:38 PM PDT
by
isom35
To: IM2MAD; Loud Mime
To: RabidBartender
Wow...never knew that about Tom Harkin. I always knew he was a creep.
125
posted on
04/07/2008 5:44:49 PM PDT
by
DCBryan1
(Arm Pilots&Teachers. Build the Wall. Export Illegals. Profile Muslims. Lockup child molesters RFN!)
To: Liberty Valance
We're gonna have to quit getting loaded and telling people the story of how we pistol-whipped and b!tch slapped Ho Chi Min back in ‘67. I was always a little afraid that somebody might figure out we were only 14 years old back then. But boy did we get the free drinks!
Well, maybe we could tell the story just ONE more time. This time you get to be the one who slapped Uncle Ho around and I'll be the guy who shot the pistols out of his guards’ hands.
Just as long as we get the story straight before we start getting all the free beers.
126
posted on
04/07/2008 5:56:14 PM PDT
by
Brucifer
(G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
To: Billthedrill
“Absolutely! That clause has saved me from jail...say, did you hear about how I shot down Richtofen over Pork Chop Hill?”
LOL!
127
posted on
04/07/2008 6:06:46 PM PDT
by
Brucifer
(G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
To: DCBryan1
Love it...you’re on track for a big bust, most likely.
128
posted on
04/07/2008 6:07:51 PM PDT
by
ErnBatavia
(...forward this to your 10 very best friends....)
To: DCBryan1
OOPs big boo boo I said P-51 and in reality they were F-4U's. One of those days. Here is a relatively short version of the real story but there are longer ones up on the net. Google "real toko ri".
http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0IAX/is_3_84/ai_108548248
BTW the Bridge on the River Kwai was not on the Kwai.
129
posted on
04/07/2008 7:30:40 PM PDT
by
mad_as_he$$
(John McCain - The Manchurian Candidate? http://www.usvetdsp.com/manchuan.htm)
To: Brucifer
My brother fought the battle of Bier in Germany in the 70's. My grandfather fought in the trenches in France in WW1 - He spent months in the hospital from a mustard gas attack. I, on the other hand, was never in the Service. I salute and thank all who did serve.
130
posted on
04/07/2008 8:25:21 PM PDT
by
Liberty Valance
(Keep a simple manner for a happy life)
To: Liberty Valance
Sorry I never met your grandfather. I understand that after being gassed your days were shortened considerably.
You're a good man Liberty Valance. If your grandfather hadn't gone to France we might live in a very different world. If he hadn't made it back we wouldn't have you.
Are you sure we never pistol-whipped HoChiMin? After all, it is one of my favorite stories. LOL!
131
posted on
04/07/2008 10:00:54 PM PDT
by
Brucifer
(G. W. Bush "The dog ate my copy of the Constitution.")
To: DCBryan1
If he says Essex CV9, VC-35, Freeper Skyraider was on during that time.
To: DCBryan1
My ultimate America is private citizens policing themselves like you all are doing. Hopefully like you say, he was a prodigy and achieved much at a young age. If that’s the case, freepmail me, I buy him a case of beer also.
133
posted on
04/08/2008 6:40:51 AM PDT
by
stevio
(Crunchy Con - God, guns, guts, and organically grown crunchy nuts.)
To: DCBryan1; Skyraider
134
posted on
04/08/2008 5:44:30 PM PDT
by
WakeUpAndVote
(The Constitution starts with the assumption that our rights are inherent and limits intrusion.)
To: DCBryan1; WakeUpAndVote
WakeUpAndVote tells me you need some information Suggest you call up (www.VC-35andvaaw-35.org) I am a Korean Vet having served on The USS Essex from 6/26/51 to 3/25/52 this address will give you the ships name & date of deployment. Essex had a squadron of Panther F9F jets and a squadron of F2H Banshee Jets Hope this is a help to you
To: Skyraider
136
posted on
04/08/2008 6:25:16 PM PDT
by
narses
(...the spirit of Trent is abroad once more.)
To: DCBryan1; Skyraider; narses
Tell him, "Jets are for kids." and see if that gets a rise out of him.
137
posted on
04/09/2008 4:27:40 AM PDT
by
WakeUpAndVote
(The Constitution starts with the assumption that our rights are inherent and limits intrusion.)
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