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Anyone Who Votes For McCain Is A Sellout To CONSERVATISM!
Randy | 4/1/2008 | Randy Larsen

Posted on 04/01/2008 6:26:48 PM PDT by Randy Larsen

All McCain voters are selling the rest of us TRUE CONSERVATIVES out!

Enough!

Show you have the values of your convictions and leave the BLUE BLOOD REPUBLICANS in Washington, crawling on their knees for forgiveness!


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KEYWORDS: aprilfools; belongsinchat; cowards; flamebait; fools; goaway; hilla; hillaryforpresident; idiot; idjit; imsoimportant; liars; liberals; mccain; selfishness; youllregretit
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To: mnehrling
Barr would be the best thing the Libertarians had in a long, long time.

Although I must say that a Libertarian drug warrior is more ironic than rain on your wedding day.

381 posted on 04/02/2008 8:14:17 AM PDT by jmc813 (Attn Bartender: WHAT'S on Stinking TAP?!?)
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To: pissant

It’s a bit hysterical to triple post


382 posted on 04/02/2008 8:20:30 AM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time" LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

On that I have to agree. :o)


383 posted on 04/02/2008 8:21:05 AM PDT by pissant (THE Conservative party: www.falconparty.com)
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To: Grunthor

“There are several questions that the McBots have no answers for, as their fragile world views would be torn asunder.”

To paraphrase that great philosopher Jack Nicholson, “Some people can’t handle the truth.”

I’ve had them get upset when I’ve talked about the true documented history of McCain. Some have asked not to have links to McCain’s past posted here. It’s “not helpful.” To which I say, “would it still be ‘unhelpful’ if it was about the Democrat nominee instead of the Republican one? Or would you be gleefully digging at the dirt hoping to expose all of it?” No response, of course.

The truth is what it is, and always, always has value. If we give McCain a pass while concentrating on the faults of Hillobama, we are as big hypocrites as the liberals. Double standards are always wrong.

I have a feeling, though, that those who wish to hide their heads in the sand and repeat the mantra, “he’s a war hero, he’s a war hero” will be forced by the MSM to confront the truth of McCain’s past ‘round about late October. Those ought to be some lively threads.


384 posted on 04/02/2008 8:34:21 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet (He is risen!)
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To: MizSterious
Maybe you should read up on what the process actually is.

Thank you, dear, I've lived through a few Presidential primaries. Sometimes we have a lot of good candidates, sometimes, only one or two, and the process is much easier for the average primary voter.

We had an unusual primary this time around, in that there was neither an incumbent President, nor an incumbent Veep. Everyone had been around a while, and had his own supporters and detractors, and there was carp flying from the get-go. It was a nasty, brutish process, made worse by voters from outside the party who tried to disrupt it. Yes, McCain did get independent voters, as he always had, and some Democrats. But he got quite a few solid Republican votes, as well, and conservatives saw their votes split among several fine candidates.

It was just the luck of the draw this year, and McCain came out on top. He wasn't chosen by the RNC, or in some smoky back room. If you don't like him, that's fine, many didn't vote for him in the primaries, including myself; I'm a FredHead. But in the interest of this country, I'm sucking it up, and voting for the candidate I believe will do a better job for this country than either of the Democrats would ever do. I'm not looking for pie in the sky, or desirous of making some sort of statement of principle. I'm dealing with what IS.

385 posted on 04/02/2008 8:34:38 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
Post 364: This is getting old. Let's deal with the real world.

Right on, Conservativegreatgrandma. I hope everyone goes back and reads your post.

386 posted on 04/02/2008 8:41:22 AM PDT by swampdweller (Live Free or Die Hard)
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To: mnehrling
Sure we want a Patton or Westmoreland, but sometimes you have to settle for someone who doesn't stab them in the back.

Even as he stabs the rest of us in the back?
I may vote for him but if so it will only be because he doesn't go as fast as the other two in destroying this great nation.
It might give us a chance to bail out of the car as it goes over the cliff.

387 posted on 04/02/2008 8:42:11 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: LadyNavyVet
Maybe it would be a shorter list if we work backwards..what areas does McCain agree with us on that the Dem candidates don't.

He opposes earmarks and has supported full disclosure of all earmarks...

He supports veterans benefit programs..

He supports the second amendment..

He opposes partial birth abortion..

What else?

388 posted on 04/02/2008 8:45:04 AM PDT by mnehring (WhinoCons are just RINOs who complain more.)
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To: Just another Joe
I may vote for him but if so it will only be because he doesn't go as fast as the other two in destroying this great nation. It might give us a chance to bail out of the car as it goes over the cliff.

I actually agree, I was justlooking for any area of difference between him and the dems..

389 posted on 04/02/2008 8:46:23 AM PDT by mnehring (WhinoCons are just RINOs who complain more.)
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To: Cicero

I swore that the one candidate I would NEVER vote for was McCain. But now I’ve changed my mind. I don’t see how I can stand by while the libs elect either Hillary or Obama.

At least McCain is not a socialist.


390 posted on 04/02/2008 8:48:36 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: mnehrling
To tell you the truth, I think we've just been given our first Manchurian Candidate.
Still some tweaks needed to get the best Manchurian Candidate, after all he IS a prototype, but in a pinch, he'll do.
391 posted on 04/02/2008 8:50:02 AM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: SuziQ

I’m kind of tired of being told to “suck it up and vote for the R”. McCain and the RNC has said, several times, that they don’t really need my vote. Why don’t you and all your McCainiac friends just go your merry way—you don’t need the conservative vote, you certainly don’t need my vote—so lay off, alright? McCain will not do anything significantly different than the other two, so it quite frankly doesn’t matter.


392 posted on 04/02/2008 8:50:12 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: fish hawk

“Have you tried AA? It does work on some people but no guarantees.”

That’s it, insult anyone who dislikes McCAin....that’s a bunch of folks, by the way. Send McCain to AA, maybe they can help him with that temper before he really causes some harm with it.


393 posted on 04/02/2008 8:53:05 AM PDT by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: Just another Joe
Many years ago, John Corzine was running for Senate with no primary challenger and on the Republican we had three or four good candidates and one complete loon.. because the democrats didn't have a primary, they all crossed over and voted for the loon who won, then immediately endorsed Corzine.

I would suspect this is the case if the voting numbers weren't so high for the dems and so many Republicans I know didn't vote for McCain.. in reality, outside FR and the blog world, I hate to say it, a lot of folks like McAmnesty..

394 posted on 04/02/2008 8:54:32 AM PDT by mnehring (WhinoCons are just RINOs who complain more.)
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To: Conservativegreatgrandma
I personally can't stand McCain. I resent him and I resent those who were stupid enough to select him to be our nominee....McCain look like a saint.

This (R) party has can't stoop any lower.

I keep hearing people complain this guy is a liar, pro-illegal alien, pro-big government, is a leftist and liberal, but they are going to support McCain and vote for him anyway.

This has become a sad joke on America.

I'd juggle flaming chain saws before voting for McCain.

At this point, I don't give a damn who is elected, as were screwed either way. The entire process was fixed and rigged by party insiders and the ruling elite. It just reeks and I honestly believe our entire electoral process has been compromised and undermined.

395 posted on 04/02/2008 8:56:40 AM PDT by dragnet2
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To: LeGrande
The numbers are here. The problem is that the system weeds out conservative candidates.

And bam, you just confirmed part 2 of my post (the part you didn't quote). It's the system, the system, the system, and you're helpless. You're a victim.

No, you don't have the numbers. Here among your fellows on FR you only have the illusion of numbers.

There are ways to get back in the game, but again I'll say, it's not the work of a single generation. Unfortunately, patience doesn't seem to be the virtue it once was.

396 posted on 04/02/2008 8:57:13 AM PDT by dbwz (kthxbai)
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To: dragnet2
The entire process was fixed and rigged by party insiders and the ruling elite. It just reeks and I honestly believe our entire electoral process has been compromised and undermined.

You are correct.
397 posted on 04/02/2008 8:58:21 AM PDT by mysterio
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To: mnehrling; Calpernia
Let's take these one by one.

He opposes earmarks and has supported full disclosure of all earmarks...

He opposes them TODAY, you mean. Read further, and my point will be obvious.

He supports veterans benefit programs..

You mean like how he supported trying to bring POWs and MIAs back from Vietnam? Or weren't they "veteran" enough?

He supports the second amendment..

He says he does today, but I hope you're aware that in 2001 he was the lead sponsor of an anti-gun show bill, and a second one based on the first which he introduced in 2003. During his presidential run in 2000, he spoke out against small, inexpensive handguns. So with McCain, it all depends on what position serves HIS interests. What will it be this year? What will it be if he takes office?

So much of this McCain's record can be found with a simple google search that I'm surprised more people haven't looked beyond the sound bites.

398 posted on 04/02/2008 9:01:11 AM PDT by MizSterious (The Republican Party is infected with the RINO-virus)
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To: LadyNavyVet

I have a feeling, though, that those who wish to hide their heads in the sand and repeat the mantra, “he’s a war hero, he’s a war hero” will be forced by the MSM to confront the truth of McCain’s past ‘round about late October.


They’ll call it dirty tricks or some such nonsense, but the one thing they won’t dare call it is “truth.”


399 posted on 04/02/2008 9:01:16 AM PDT by Grunthor (http://constitutionparty.com/join.php)
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To: mnehrling

I’m not playing that game. I am willing to make some compromises in my conservative principles for the greater good. I will do that when I believe that the person on the ballot is a decent human being, even if we have policy disagreements. That is why I was able to vote for Bush 41, Dole, Bush 43 twice and even for Romney in the primary after my first two choices dropped out. They all are, ultimately, good men, even if they are further to the left than I. McCain is not. McCain is every bit as venal, grasping, corrupt and self-serving as any politician alive and a whole lot worse than most. He is wholly unfit, both morally and intellectually, to be POTUS, and if he wins, it will be without my vote.


400 posted on 04/02/2008 9:03:31 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet (He is risen!)
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