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Seriously funny: Ben Stein takes on the debate-phobic Darwinian establishment
WORLD ^ | April 5, 2008 | Marvin Olasky

Posted on 04/01/2008 12:21:24 PM PDT by Zender500

"The shot heard round the world" that started the American Revolution came on April 19, 1775. On April 18 this year, a seriously funny documentary is scheduled to hit 1,000 theaters across America and fire a shot that will go unheard if debate-phobic Darwinists get their way.

The 100-minute documentary, Expelled, is perfect for adults and children of middle-school age or above: It should be rated R not for sex or violence but for being reasonable, radical, risible, and right. (It is rated PG for thematic material, some disturbing images, and brief smoking.) The expelling of Intelligent Design (ID) proponents from universities is not a laughing matter, but star Ben Stein is amusing as he walks, in dark suit and bright running shoes, from interview to interview with scientists and philosophers on both sides of the evolution debate.

Expelled rightly equates Darwinian stifling of free speech with the Communist attempt to enslave millions behind the Berlin Wall. One Expelled scene shows Stein, mathematician David Berlinski (a sophisticated Paris resident), and nuclear physicist Gerald Schroeder (wearing a yarmulke), all now ID advocates, discussing the importance of freedom as they visit a remnant of the Wall. All three are Jewish, and they don't look or talk like the hicks portrayed in Inherit the Wind.

Stein, giving the Darwinists he interviews plenty of time to make their case, is particularly effective in his conversation with Richard Dawkins, atheistic author of the best-selling The God Delusion. Dawkins astoundingly admits that life on earth could be the result of ID, as long as the designer was a being from outer space who was himself the product of atheistic evolution. No God allowed!

Expelled's showing of the connection between evolutionary doctrine and Nazi eugenics has already infuriated some in academia and the media: University of Minnesota professor P.Z. Myers blasted Expelled as "ludicrous in its dishonesty," and Orlando Sentinel reviewer Roger Moore raged about "loaded images, loaded rhetoric." But since a movie is not a dissertation, films show linkages by juxtaposing clips rather than pages of footnoted type. The real question is: Did Darwinism bulwark Hitlerian hatred by providing a scientific rationale for killing those considered less fit in the struggle for survival?

The answer to that question is an unambiguous yes. When I stalked the stacks of the Library of Congress in the early 1990s, I saw and scanned shelf upon shelf of racist and anti-Semitic journals from the first several decades of the last century, with articles frequently citing and applying Darwin. If you read an anti-Expelled review that dodges the issue of substance by concentrating merely on style, you'll be seeing another sign of closed minds.

April 18 will bring an interesting test of whether Expelled, or any other documentary so conceived and so dedicated, can endure in movie theaters past the first weekend. Michael Moore's fatuous documentaries have done good box office with the help of sympathetic reviewers and network news producers. Ben Stein's excellent one might rely on evangelicals and others who are tired of being ridiculed by the closed minds of the Evolution Establishment.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: darwin; evolution
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1 posted on 04/01/2008 12:21:26 PM PDT by Zender500
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To: wagglebee

2 posted on 04/01/2008 12:22:11 PM PDT by Zender500
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To: Zender500

That is why there was Gould and his magic evolution.


3 posted on 04/01/2008 12:23:28 PM PDT by junta (It's Poltical Correctness stupid! Hold liberals accountable for their actions, a new idea.)
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To: Zender500
"Poems are made by fools like me, but only GOD can make a tree". Kilmer Still true today.
4 posted on 04/01/2008 12:25:28 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: Zender500

I love Ben Stein.


5 posted on 04/01/2008 12:27:40 PM PDT by svcw (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
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To: Zender500

I understand that Ben Stein is a smart man, and quite knowledgable about various subjects. I don’t know if he is qualified to debate Evolution, however.


6 posted on 04/01/2008 12:30:49 PM PDT by Paradox (Politics: The art of convincing the populace that your delusions are superior to others.)
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To: Zender500

Hubris.


7 posted on 04/01/2008 12:33:24 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (Teach the Raelian Controversey!)
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To: svcw

I wouldn’t mind if they brought back “Win Ben Stein’s Money”. That was an entertaining show, and I like his articles on yahoo.com’s finance page.


8 posted on 04/01/2008 12:33:29 PM PDT by VA_Gentleman (Does Mars have global warming too? Is that why they had a polar cap avalanche?)
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To: VA_Gentleman

It was a great show. Did you know the money the contestants won was actually his? Saw him on an interview, and thats what he told the host. Except the shows I watched he never lost.


9 posted on 04/01/2008 12:37:12 PM PDT by svcw (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
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To: Paradox
Thats an interesting comment. Now pray tell what qualifies a person to debate “evolution”?
10 posted on 04/01/2008 12:38:48 PM PDT by svcw (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
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To: Paradox

He doesn’t debate, he narrates and hosts the movie. He let’s the Darwinists and neo-Darwinists string themselves up on their own words.


11 posted on 04/01/2008 12:40:01 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: Zender500
The God Delusion. Dawkins astoundingly admits that life on earth could be the result of ID, as long as the designer was a being from outer space who was himself the product of atheistic evolution. No God allowed!

I don't think its fair to the Darwinists to lump them all in with nut jobs like Dawkins.

12 posted on 04/01/2008 12:41:43 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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To: svcw

The only people that are allowed to debate evolution are those who have already committed to a philosophy which assumes naturalism and are committed to evolution.

Those who don’t, obviously aren’t qualified to debate it....


13 posted on 04/01/2008 12:41:45 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Paradox
I don’t know if he is qualified to debate Evolution, however.

Am I "qualified" to debate global warming?

14 posted on 04/01/2008 12:43:16 PM PDT by xjcsa (Has anyone seen my cornballer?)
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To: ConservativeDude

Why don’t I just make this easier on everyone and get this out:

“Ben Stein is an idiot lackey for a bunch of dumb a&*$ creationists.”

There.

Now that that has been said, those of you who were dying to say that can just move along.

The rest of us can discuss this rationally.

Anyone seen the movie? I have. It is fantastic.


15 posted on 04/01/2008 12:43:21 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: Zender500

You Tube Super Trailer:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGCxbhGaVfE


16 posted on 04/01/2008 12:44:00 PM PDT by 11th Commandment (Elect Conservatives- if you don't vote for McCain, at least work to elect conservatives!)
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To: ConservativeDude

Very nice def.
It is all clear now ;>)


17 posted on 04/01/2008 12:44:07 PM PDT by svcw (I reject your reality and substitute my own.)
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To: svcw

Heh. Yeah. And that is pretty much the conclusions of the atheists in the movie.

You should see it. You will find yourself laughing out loud at them. Stein doesn’t have to trick them or anything. He just lets them talk, and they look like fools.


18 posted on 04/01/2008 12:45:15 PM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: ConservativeDude

Kind of like the interviews with the Code Stinkers.

When your opponent is in the process of destroying himself, don’t stop him.


19 posted on 04/01/2008 12:47:30 PM PDT by MrB (You can't reason people out of a position that they didn't use reason to get into in the first place)
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To: Zender500
Did Darwinism bulwark Hitlerian hatred by providing a scientific rationale for killing those considered less fit in the struggle for survival?

Absolutely.

Darwinism helped them philosophically, just as the combustion engine helped them build tanks. It doesn't necessarily mean that Darwinism always supports evils such as Nazi eugenics. What it does is show that it lends itself to support such evil.

An objective philosopher or scientist should not object, unless they have some kind of unexamined emotional attachment to Darwinism...which it turns out many do, as is commonly manifest by them getting offended when this obvious connection is pointed out.

20 posted on 04/01/2008 12:49:30 PM PDT by AndyTheBear (Disastrous social experimentation is the opiate of elitist snobs.)
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