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Fred Thompson Backs McCain
Washington Post ^ | 2/8/08 | Michael D. Shear

Posted on 02/08/2008 6:53:23 PM PST by NoGrayZone

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To: chemicalman

I see your point. But I can’t go on this premise “McJuan may not last 4 years, if elected.”......

I would find myself thinking evil thoughts and I don’t want to put myself in that position!


941 posted on 02/09/2008 4:04:36 AM PST by NoGrayZone (I believe we are witnessing the birth of the new Conservative Party....Grab a cigar!)
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To: NoGrayZone
I’m not really surprised. I don’t think this means Fred is any less conservative than he was previously thought to be, though. Perhaps he felt as though he needed to endorse someone now that the race was down to two, and since McCain was a friend of his, that’s the way he went. Kudos to him for expressing his opinion. It is his right to do so. My husband was thoroughly disappointed in Fred by this news, but I’m not sure what he expected. It’s not as though Fred is going to support a third party or the Democrat, so that left him with McCain. In his opinion, the thing to do is rally around the party’s nominee. And many feel that way. Just not me.

Personally, as for me, while I understand Fred’s point of view, and am glad we live in a country where he is free to express himself, I wholeheartedly reject any notion of supporting McCain. Until Florida, I could have voted for McCain, not happily, but nonetheless I could have. After his campaign style in Florida, and his arrogant attitude constantly on display, I just can’t stomach the man.
I’m not sacrificing my beliefs just because the other guy stinks. I’ll be writing in someone in this election or voting third party, if a party convinces me they support my conservatism. I can’t hold my nose and vote anymore.

942 posted on 02/09/2008 4:06:53 AM PST by IMissPresidentReagan ("When you can't make them see the light; make them feel the heat." President Ronald Reagan)
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To: Laptop_Ron

Did it occur to you that perhaps, even a slightest chance, that you thought wrong? Fred is right.


943 posted on 02/09/2008 4:07:14 AM PST by bert (K.E. N.P. +12 . "You can't be that way"......... Clint)
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To: SuziQ

How many times must I say yes!


944 posted on 02/09/2008 4:08:02 AM PST by NoGrayZone (I believe we are witnessing the birth of the new Conservative Party....Grab a cigar!)
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To: ShadowDancer

I like your tagline. I just love positive thinking people. Something that has been in short supply here lately.


945 posted on 02/09/2008 4:08:21 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: NoGrayZone
LOL
I was thinking more along his age and condition. May not be able to handle the pressure.
946 posted on 02/09/2008 4:09:08 AM PST by chemicalman (Re-draft Thompson '08)
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To: businessprofessor

Thats the spirit!


947 posted on 02/09/2008 4:10:51 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: IMissPresidentReagan

You sound much more realistic than I (I’m in your husbands boat). Our common ground?

“I’m not sacrificing my beliefs just because the other guy stinks. I’ll be writing in someone in this election or voting third party, if a party convinces me they support my conservatism. I can’t hold my nose and vote anymore.”


948 posted on 02/09/2008 4:11:45 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Sorry folks, still not voting for a RIB!!!!!)
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To: chemicalman

Ohhhhhh, lol!!!! See, those evil thoughts are already surfacing!!!


949 posted on 02/09/2008 4:12:55 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Sorry folks, still not voting for a RIB!!!!!)
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To: incindiary

The good people of Iraq you so sympathetically speak of yadayada are at the same time those “We the people” you speak of in the Consitution that “only fringe whackos believe in” anymore. Horsecrap.

The poor, poor people who had nothing to do with 9/11? Horsecrap.

Some of those same people in Iraq, in Afghanistan, in Iran, and in the United States of America are the very isolationists who allow these death cult regimes to rule.

As for the old, tired, Just War Doctrine argument- perhaps you might pull it out and re-read it from a different perspective.

Those who choose to cut and run from this vote are no better. In fact, I look upon their ilk as no different than Saddam in his spider hole or Bill Clinton in the Oval Office. Dangerous cowards who care naught for anyone but themselves.

Thank God there are others who won’t cut and run and who refuse to live on Easy Street in Isolationville- those who have sacrificed for freedom here, there, and everywhere deserve better- especially from those who have not.

There are all manner of insulting thought processes on this thread.

This is far larger than any of us, individually. At least try to wrap your mind around it and be part of the solution.


950 posted on 02/09/2008 4:14:26 AM PST by freema
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To: Laptop_Ron
Fred is obviously not the man I thought he was. I’m sorry that I ever even thought of voting for him. I’m glad he left the race.

So when every GOP leader comes around and endorses McCain, including Mitt and Hunter and the President and Vice President...and before it's over with probably even Rush, Sean and Ann...are you going to say that they're obiviously not the people you thought they were?

The Party leaders ARE going to endorse McCain. It's just that simple.

951 posted on 02/09/2008 4:16:32 AM PST by Corin Stormhands (New and Improved! Now with 4 less lbs.)
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To: Recovering_Democrat

Me, too. In the 06 election, now Senator Bob Corker was running against Harold Ford Jr. for US Senate. Everyone called him a RINO and said they were not going to vote. Well it was either vote for Corker or let Ford get it. I did vote for Corker. He won the election and he has been surprisingly conservative in the Senate. I am proud to have him as my Senator. Anyway I know even McCain would be much better than either of the other 2. I’m not ready to hand my beautiful beloved country over to people who are bent on destroying it. At least McCain fought for this country. That is a good thing.


952 posted on 02/09/2008 4:18:43 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: eclecticEel
Not this one. Life is what you make it, not what you wish it. Fred understands that it is an imperfect world, but you have to do the best you can with what you have.

You "Principled Conservatives" are sounding more and more like Libertarians, every day.

953 posted on 02/09/2008 4:19:06 AM PST by Redleg Duke ("All gave some, and some gave all!")
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To: Redleg Duke

“You “Principled Conservatives” are sounding more and more like Libertarians, every day.”

I guess it looks that way when you stand in the middle.


954 posted on 02/09/2008 4:21:28 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Sorry folks, still not voting for a RIB!!!!!)
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To: NoGrayZone

Don’t you just love the bend over and take it folks who say we have to just accept it and change things later?

Exact reason we are in this mess. Nothing ever changes for the better, we keep giving things up.

Now we are supposed to vbote for the author of the CIR bill so we can meld Mexico into the US.

I believe conservatives have become weenies.


955 posted on 02/09/2008 4:24:40 AM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: gate2wire

Fred didn’t want Gore in the WH. He knew if Gore was the incumbent at election time, he would have had a huge advantage on Bush.


956 posted on 02/09/2008 4:24:45 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: Cicero; All
...As somebody pointed out in an article posted here recently, part of the problem is that the RNC has sat by and allowed a bad situation to develop. Namely, all of the early primaries are in liberal states, and many of them are open. So Democrats can cross over, and the conservative candidates have a momentum disadvantage...

Agree, but the question is WHY does the RNC do this?... Why don't they change it?... It almost seems as IF the entire primary system IS DESIGNED to allow "independents" (such as the one the PIC :) to water down the conservatives choice. It almost seems like a CONSPIRACY against Conservatives and especially Social-Conservatives... But again WHY?... to keep them in 'their place?'

I've been saying for a long time that the 'game of politics' had changed, that because of the Internet and groups such as FR, people could talk and exchange thoughts and thus could not be easily fooled as in the past. The changes ARE obvious as see them all around, but the important part comes now, just with what MACACA is just trying to do, as with his at the APAC (whatever) two days ago, CAN HE?... CAN HE STILL PULL THE WOOL OVER OUR EYES and 'make' us vote for him???

I surely hope not... Because if both groups of Conservatives (social and the others :) help elect this weasel that would just prove that we are nothing but a bunch of spineless, convicion-less, idiots. That would prove that it wasn't lack of communication - as I thought - what made the same groups vote for the party's nominee, regardless what piece of sh*** was put in front of them (i.e. Bob Dole and his log cabin Republican friends a while back... even then I already knew the party was going the wrong way.. :)

Do you get my point?... Are we then just plain and simply idiots?... And as such, WHY would the RNC or anyone for that matter takes us seriously?

"I am an independent :"

957 posted on 02/09/2008 4:25:18 AM PST by ElPatriota (Duncan Hunter 08 -- I am proud to support this man for my president and may be Huck :))
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To: gpapa
Unfortunately, he already backed off on his fiscal conservatism message by returning to DC to vote yes on the stimulus package.

He had to do that. Can you imagine the screaming coming from the bunch of freeloaders that call themselves Americans these days if he had voted no or just not voted?

958 posted on 02/09/2008 4:29:45 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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To: indylindy

Well, weenies is a nice way of putting it, lol. I think people are just so used to selling out that it has now become the norm. It obviously still irks them to do it though, judging from their nasty insults and bullying the rest of us into “dropping the soap”.


959 posted on 02/09/2008 4:30:37 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Sorry folks, still not voting for a RIB!!!!!)
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To: RockinRight

If Hitlary or Osama Obama wins, we will never have another shot at it.


960 posted on 02/09/2008 4:31:28 AM PST by beckysueb (Pray for our troops , America, and President Bush)
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