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To: tet68; Czar; Travis McGee; Squantos; ForGod'sSake; philman_36; B4Ranch; EternalVigilance; ...
I can’t agree with you on this one, tet.

Each republican candidate for president in the last six presidential elections (including this one) has been less a ‘republican’ than the one who preceded him. George Bush is less a Constitutional scholar, and reveres the Constitution and the sovereignty of America, less than did his father. George senior was less of a Constitutional scholar, and revered the Constitution and the sovereignty of America, exponentially less than did Ronald Reagan. And John McCain doesn’t know the meaning of reverence for the Constitution, or allegiance to protecting America’s sovereignty.

Each time we genuine conservatives support one of these turncoats, we define-down the republican party. It has now reached a point at which I no longer even recognize the party in which I have been registered for forty years. It has become a party that shares more with the democrats than it does with those courageous anti-slavery activists who painstakingly laid the party’s sublime foundation in an act of defiance against a tyrannical federal government more than a century and a half ago.

The only genuine republicans I can name today who are either currently serving in Washington, are serving as voices of conservatism in academia or the media, or who have been participants in this primary election cycle (James Inhofe, Rick Santorum, Duncan Hunter, Fred Thompson, Thomas Sowell, J.C. Watts, Alan Keyes, and John Bolton, among them) represent a dying breed. They are throwbacks to what conservatism used to represent, and, as such, they are no longer welcome as leaders in today’s republican party. Their voices are stifled by their ‘fellow republicans’, and they are perceived as part of a ‘fringe element’. As things stand now, none of them would anymore stand a snowball’s chance in hell of gaining powerful political office, let alone the presidency.

What does that say about the republican party of 2008? It says that, over the past two decades, we registered republicans have allowed our party to incrementally exclude true conservatives for consideration to hold the highest offices in the land. And how have we done that? We have ‘gone along to get along’. We have held our collective noses and agreed to put in office men who are less and less like genuine American patriots, and more and more like leftist democrats, with each election cycle. And the phony republicans we have put in office have consistently worked with the democrats to stifle any efforts made by genuine conservatives to re-ignite the conservative voice in Washington. And the Constitution and America’s sovereignty be damned.

When Rick Santorum was the third most powerful man in the senate, John McCain invariably sided with the democrats every time Santorum or another conservative attempted to bring legislation to the floor that would steer this republic back in the right direction. McCain often wouldn’t allow conservative legislation to even see the light of day on the senate floor. For that reason, Santorum despises McCain, and has stated that he will never vote for him, commenting that McCain has been as much an enemy of conservative, pro-American thought as most democrats on the Hill.

My husband, who is every bit as conservative as I, plans to vote for Hillary in November. He is going to do so because, should McCain win the election, the mainstream media will continuously paint him as a ‘conservative’ (just as they are now), and, when he makes toxic mistakes (most likely in decisions regarding illegal immigration, abortion, stem cell research, tax increases, global warming legislation, granting due-process rights to terrorists, and the like), those mistakes will be portrayed as having been committed by a ‘conservative’ president. After which, you can count on the fact that no genuine conservative will occupy the White House again in our lifetimes.

Whether Clinton or McCain occupies the White House for the next four years, America is in for a rude awakening. I would prefer that a liberal democrat/avowed socialist be blamed for the geopolitical/economic earthquakes that are looming over the horizon. At least that way we will have the whisper of a hope that a genuine conservative may be able to eventually take the reins and pick up the pieces.

I could not, in good conscience, cast a vote for Hillary (my voting finger would spontaneously combust for sure). But neither will I continue to vote for leftists-in-conservative-clothing. Such imposters have succeeded in re-defining my party, handcuffing their genuine republican counterparts, and corrupting my government beyond recognition. And if an avowed anti-American leftist must damage our beloved republic for four years in order for the republican party to recognize that it had better return to its roots, then that may well be the terrible price we must pay in order to embark on that long-overdue journey.

I’ll be sitting out the election in November, at least where the presidential ballot is concerned, for the first time since I became eligible to vote – forty years ago. I will no longer play an active role in the hi-jacking of the republican party … or the suicide of our beloved republic.

~ joanie
Allegiance and Duty Betrayed

180 posted on 02/07/2008 10:41:33 PM PST by joanie-f (If you believe that God is your co-pilot, it might be time to switch seats ...)
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To: joanie-f
Whether Clinton or McCain occupies the White House for the next four years, America is in for a rude awakening. I would prefer that a liberal democrat/avowed socialist be blamed for the geopolitical/economic earthquakes that are looming over the horizon. At least that way we will have the whisper of a hope that a genuine conservative may be able to eventually take the reins and pick up the pieces.

I agree. I haven't yet decided what to do with my ballot, but there is no winning option this year.

Our government (both parties) are at war against U.S. citizens. If the citizens don't, or can't, fight back, it's simply going to be a massacre.

Hitler's propaganda war against some of Germany's citizens started seven or eight years before the first casualties in the concentration camps. I have no patience left for those who believe or insist "it could never happen here".

181 posted on 02/07/2008 11:00:58 PM PST by meadsjn
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To: joanie-f
Nailed to the floor.

100%

186 posted on 02/07/2008 11:31:16 PM PST by TigersEye (I'm being good in this life so I can have joanie-f's brain in the next one.)
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To: joanie-f

Joanie, you make a good case, as I knew you would, far more elequently than I.

I’m going to be offline over the weekend so will respond in a few days.

Hope you and yours are well.

Your FRiend
Tet.


198 posted on 02/08/2008 3:18:12 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: joanie-f; jedward; Halgr; processing please hold; Borax Queen; WorkerbeeCitizen; Quix; potlatch; ...
Excellent post, excellently stated joanie. Ty for the ping!

...over the past two decades, we registered republicans have allowed our party to incrementally exclude true conservatives for consideration to hold the highest offices in the land. And how have we done that? We have ‘gone along to get along’. We have held our collective noses and agreed to put in office men who are less and less like genuine American patriots, and more and more like leftist democrats, with each election cycle. And the phony republicans we have put in office have consistently worked with the democrats to stifle any efforts made by genuine conservatives to re-ignite the conservative voice in Washington. And the Constitution and America’s sovereignty be damned.

...I would prefer that a liberal democrat/avowed socialist be blamed for the geopolitical/economic earthquakes that are looming over the horizon. At least that way we will have the whisper of a hope that a genuine conservative may be able to eventually take the reins and pick up the pieces.

I could not, in good conscience, cast a vote for Hillary (my voting finger would spontaneously combust for sure). But neither will I continue to vote for leftists-in-conservative-clothing. Such imposters have succeeded in re-defining my party, handcuffing their genuine republican counterparts, and corrupting my government beyond recognition.

Exactly how I feel. I won't be voting for any wolves in sheeps clothing, any who work against the Constitution, our nation's sovereignty, and conservatives. I refuse to vote for any person who has the gall to claim they are but "working with the democrats." These betrayers of the Constitution, are destroying this country and are successfully destroying the meaning of conservativism, all in the name of "compromise."

They have long ago compromised: their principles, their oaths of office, this nation, and the PEOPLE of the United States of America.

199 posted on 02/08/2008 4:02:24 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: joanie-f; tet68
...you screw over us and we will hold your feet to the fire!
Shades of 2000.
Kind of useless as a baseline since the flame resistant shoes and socks have already been handed out.
201 posted on 02/08/2008 5:57:24 AM PST by philman_36
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To: joanie-f
And what a pickle the main stream media is going to be in, and what a tizzy establishment Republicans are going to be in. Any future remarks regarding the remaining candidates is going to have to include "third tier" candidates or there is going to be some shoe scraping going on.
I love the irony! They're going to be forced to give name recognition to them simply because they're still in the race!
ROTFLOL!
203 posted on 02/08/2008 6:30:41 AM PST by philman_36
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To: joanie-f
What does that say about the republican party of 2008? It says that, over the past two decades, we registered republicans have allowed our party to incrementally exclude true conservatives for consideration to hold the highest offices in the land. And how have we done that? We have ‘gone along to get along’.

Yes, Ma'am.

206 posted on 02/08/2008 7:15:43 AM PST by AuntB ('If there must be trouble let it be in my day, that my child may have peace." T. Paine)
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To: joanie-f

Wow joanie-f. You brought a tear to my eye.

I tip my hat to you. You said it so well.


209 posted on 02/08/2008 7:36:35 AM PST by dforest (Nothing left to say.)
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To: joanie-f

Once again, my Dear, you have put into words all of my thoughts about McCain, the Republican Party and the future of America.

As I watch history being written and rewritten, I have often wished that you had become a national columnist but then reality hits and I realize that we don’t have any truly conservative media remaining that could proudly publish your words.

I won’t be voting for McCain (POW issues) but I don’t think I can bring myself to vote for Hillary either so I will probably write your name in and pray a bit longer each night for our republic.


212 posted on 02/08/2008 9:29:58 AM PST by B4Ranch (("Life is a food chain; if you're not at the top, you're on the menu." ))
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To: joanie-f
The conviction and clarity with which you are able to express my thoughts is truly uncanny!

It's beginning to look as though republicans will have their very own basket case for a candidate. JMO, but John McCain is the nearest thing to a loose cannon the pubbies have ever been able to get this close to "the button". Even Barry Goldwater, for all his bluster, was not the unknown quantity that John McCain is.

In any case, "our" people let us down -- badly in many cases. With dims in office, at least we have a known enemy.

214 posted on 02/08/2008 12:53:46 PM PST by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: joanie-f; hiredhand; DoughtyOne

I stand right with you Joanie........agree 100%.

Working on ideas now. Will run em past you and others later for pro and con evaluation.

Have a great weekend .

Stay safe !


221 posted on 02/08/2008 7:32:33 PM PST by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet. ©)
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To: joanie-f; potlatch; devolve; ntnychik; MeekOneGOP; Squantos; TigersEye
McCain is a false-flag operation.

His attack on the First Amendment is an attack on the Republic; it is treason.

His attempts to open the border to invasion--and more gangs, drugs, violence and dissolution--are likewise damaging to the nation's very existence.

His intention to foist the suffocating fascism of global warming regulation will cripple the economy.

His oppositon to tax cuts is diametrically opposed to Reagan conservatism, yet the hollow men line up to praise his conservatism.

We have been subjected to a kabuki theater, fearsome painted masks paraded to foist this dangerous candidate upon us.

His role is to clear the field of battle for Hillary as Frau Mao, and Obama as the Twelfth Imam.

Are we so stupid we do not see McCain is a programmed device.

Are we to welcome his Trojan horse into the city and drink wine until we slumber.

Are we so blind we do not see that as he reaches out to us, his middle finger is extended.

McCain is an enemy of conservatives and a fellow traveller of the left.

To any who say he got the message on the border, have him explain Juan Hernandez.

The better to eat you with--

Hey, McCain, you ate the conservatives and put on their clothes--that doesn't make you a conservative.


224 posted on 02/08/2008 10:13:07 PM PST by PhilDragoo (Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
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To: joanie-f; Jim Robinson
Thanks for the ping. Brilliant, Joanie. You have summed up what most conservatives are thinking at this point in the election. Jim, you must read post #180.
226 posted on 02/09/2008 4:11:20 PM PST by SiliconValleyGuy
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To: joanie-f; tet68; Harvey105; B4Ranch; Borax Queen; nicmarlo; Travis McGee; SierraWasp; calcowgirl; ..
Brilliant, joanie--as usual, simply brilliant. If ever there was a single voice--just when we need it--to express the feelings of true conservatives, your post is that voice.

I will not, under any circumstances support or vote for John McCain. To say that he is a double dealing two faced weasel is to state the obvious. There are so many excellent reasons not to support him, just when we are ready to sum them up, here comes a few more. His claim as a conservative possesses sort of a surface sheen because he has somehow managed to garner an ACU rating of 83 -- undoubtedly because there are so very many of the everyday issues, he was able to slither into a kind of B-grade notwithstanding his "maverick" tendency to cross the aisle and jump into bed with the Rats on virtually every single one of the "touchstone" issues, those which separate the courageous, dedicated conservative from the faux conservatives--the ones who say "C'mon, you know we all have to get behind McCain to prevent the Rats from winning with Hillary or Obama."

What the faux conservatives cannot conceive, and will never understand, is that the true conservative is so fed up to the teeth with pulling that damned lever every four years for the "least worse" candidate, we now refuse to continue that madness because we have, at long last, realized that doing so never brings us an improvement in the conduct of the Republican party and, especially, its so called "leadership". Instead, they become more convinced they can continue on course, full speed ahead with big government, big spending, more UN and globaloney. Because we know that this will stop only when we stop pulling that "least worse" lever, more of us than ever before have decided to draw a line in the sand. This time, no more "least worse" and NO to McCain.

When even a guy like Duncan Hunter--not the perfect conservative, but close enough to Reagan to make him the only true conservative in this race--cannot garner more than 5% (at best) anyplace, it really is time to recognize just how far we have fallen, since Reagan left office, by going along with the GOP. "Go along to get along" was a lousy policy back in the silk sock country club Bob Michael era, and it's even a worse one today.

I'm done.

227 posted on 02/09/2008 4:21:26 PM PST by Czar ( StillFedUptotheTeeth@Washington)
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180: Amen. I agree 100%. I will not drink the RINO arsenic koolaid again, because I’m told it will kill me more slowly than ‘Rat cyanide koolaid.

I won’t vote for a mentally unstable open borders traitor, even if he shamefully lies and calls himself a “Reagan conservative.”

Who the hell is Juan McCain, of all people, to now demand party loyalty?!?

It’s MY turn to be a “maverick.” The hell with McCain and all RINOs. They can rot where it’s hot.


238 posted on 02/09/2008 4:52:47 PM PST by Travis McGee (---www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com---)
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To: joanie-f
I will no longer play an active role in the hi-jacking of the republican party … or the suicide of our beloved republic.

God bless you and thank you so much for having the courage to not throw your principles out the window because of the manipulation by those who have hijacked the GOP and our country. I wish people could look at the bigger picture of what has been happening, instead of falling for the same thing every 4 years - even when it gets more and more obvious.

As far as what may happen, imo the only person we should answer to is God, and I know God doesn't want me to go against my conscience and betray all my core principles by supporting one evil over another evil, only because it is marginally less evil. Better to vote for no evils, and not have to be responsible for aiding the destruction of the Republican party and our republic, as you so eloquently stated.

240 posted on 02/09/2008 5:10:41 PM PST by incindiary (A government that is big enough to give you all you want is big enough to take it all away.)
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To: joanie-f

Great post and great blog!


246 posted on 02/10/2008 11:10:16 AM PST by Def Conservative (If we accept McCain now, just think of how liberal the next GOP nominee wil be..)
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262 posted on 02/11/2008 1:30:44 AM PST by DoughtyOne (That's right McStain, you'll get my vote when you peel it from my cold dead fingers.)
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To: joanie-f

Great post. Bumping.


264 posted on 02/11/2008 6:15:47 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote!)
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To: joanie-f

One of the finest posts I’ve ever seen on FR, and by the way, great tagline, too.


267 posted on 02/11/2008 7:15:29 AM PST by Nea Wood (I'm not a bad Christian because I refuse to join you in giving other people's stuff away.)
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