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FWIW, I have no intention of telling anyone how to vote or to condemn anyone's choices. I only ask that you consider what is written, what values and principles you hold in your heart, and that you let your heart guide your vote on Tuesday. Personally, I pray God has better plans for our nation than the path we are heading down, but if all else fails we still have the chance for a brokered convention and the hope that the nominee is Conservative!
1 posted on 02/03/2008 6:35:00 AM PST by callisto
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Are You Willing To Compromise & Surrender What Our Founding Fathers Set Forth For This Republic?

Yeah! What's on TeeVee?

Pass the chips!

;-)

2 posted on 02/03/2008 6:36:36 AM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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To: DoughtyOne; Liz; AliVeritas; Petronski; lone star annie; JaneNC; Constitution Day

My first, and hopefully only, vanity.


3 posted on 02/03/2008 6:40:16 AM PST by callisto
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...they wrote one of the greatest documents in history...

Thanks for posting. Good post.

4 posted on 02/03/2008 6:40:20 AM PST by PGalt
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To: dixiechick2000; Grizzled Bear

I hide my shoes tonight! LOL.


5 posted on 02/03/2008 6:42:22 AM PST by callisto
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To: callisto

I am not, but there are a whole lot of idiots in this country that are ready too.


6 posted on 02/03/2008 6:42:43 AM PST by Piquaboy (22 year veteran of the Army, Air Force and Navy, Pray for all our military .)
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To: callisto

I can’t remember who said this, it goes something like this, the people will have the government they deserve.

Just my thoughts.


7 posted on 02/03/2008 6:43:42 AM PST by abseaman (The future is just your imagination reincarnaterd.)
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Many are more than willing to compromise their principles to vote for one of the three RINOs if they the GOP nominee. Heck, there have been a whole slew of Freepers who have enthusiastically supported Romney, McCain, Huckabee and Paul right from the start when there were conservative candidates for the nomination in the race. Of course one would have to conclude that those individuals never had any conservative principles, have confused the GOP with conservatism as if they are equal, and they really shouldn't even be Freepers.

When it gets to the general election, if one of the RINOs is the Republican nominee I will have a big decision to make. I will likely not make that decision until I step into the voting booth.


8 posted on 02/03/2008 6:46:56 AM PST by big'ol_freeper (REAGAN: "..party..must represent certain fundamental beliefs [not] compromised..[for] expediency")
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To: callisto

That is why you have primaries. So that a nominee is determined.

The primary is almost over and it is time to rally around ONE person. That person will be McCain, for better or worse. Democrats are the enemy, NOT MCCAIN!


9 posted on 02/03/2008 6:47:32 AM PST by DogandPonyShow (America, the Light of the World.)
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To: callisto

There are really no voting choices left now. True conservatives aren’t running and many seem ok with that.


10 posted on 02/03/2008 6:49:33 AM PST by CindyDawg
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“Are You Willing To Compromise & Surrender What Our Founding Fathers Set Forth For This Republic?”

No.

Let the demonRATs have it. The damage they will do might just wake us up to what WE have to do. Finally.


11 posted on 02/03/2008 6:49:35 AM PST by 13Sisters76 ("It is amazing how many people mistake a certain hip snideness for sophistication. " Thos. Sowell)
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Because if we refuse to stand up for what is right and principled when given the choice, we will deserve what we receive for accepting what has been handed to us.

Amen to that, callisto!

And speaking of the Founding Fathers....

A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue; but moderation in principle is always a vice.

Thomas Paine

12 posted on 02/03/2008 6:50:34 AM PST by mewzilla (In politics the middle way is none at all. John Adams)
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if we basely entail hereditary bondage on them.

We're there...

It's accelerated over the last few decades. The old trapper from North Dakota has put a lot of fence posts in.

Personally, I'm beginning to believe that the government we have is a massive violation of the 3rd Amendment.

What didn't the British think of it?

Instead of moving troops into peoples' homes, just tax their homes, take the money and build massive shining houses for the "public servants" and the troops in amongst the people, then make EVERYTHING illegal so's they could arrest anyone they wanted to.

BRILLIANT!

16 posted on 02/03/2008 6:56:34 AM PST by an amused spectator (AGW: If you drag a hundred dollar bill through a research lab, you never know what you'll find)
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Thank you. I hadn’t seen DoughtyOne’s post which is also very good. Unless we can start a “Conservative Party” of our own I’m afraid we’re doomed. The GOP is no longer the voice of conservatism.

I will not compromise. I would really prefer to go to arms. I’m afraid if we do not fight back now those of us willing and with memory will be long gone.

Here’s to hoping there are some young people out there that will understand the true history of this country and not let it die on the vine.

Our country has become too populated, and is too geographically large to go backwards and the forward movement is not going to happen without a great conservative leader of which we do not have.

I refuse to pull the lever for what we are being offered.

We few won’t get what we deserve but the millions of people who only know American Idol and the latest about Britney Spears will.


23 posted on 02/03/2008 7:00:58 AM PST by snippy_about_it (The FReeper Foxhole. America's history, America's soul.)
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To: callisto

Excellent post!! I wish more people would understand it.


25 posted on 02/03/2008 7:01:42 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Was Thompson/Hunter 08....now it's....Just Shoot Me)
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Let each citizen remember at the moment he is offering his vote that he is not making a present or a compliment to please an individual - or at least that he ought not so to do; but that he is executing one of the most solemn trusts in human society for which he is accountable to God and his country.

I can't think of a more appropriate instruction... given this sure does seem to be a Gideon type of cutting going on this election year... The Book of Judges describes the LORD's government and chapter 7 tells US who is in charge ..... And the LORD said unto Gideon, "The People that are with thee are *TOOO* man for *ME* to give the Midianites into their hands,lest Israel vaunt themselves against ME, saying, 'Mine own hand hath saved me.'

Keep reading ... if no Bible available 7:7 And the LORD said unto Gideon, "By the three hundred men that lapped will I save you, and deliver the Midianites into thine hand: and let all the other People go every man unto his place."

I am trying to see which of the candidates fit the profile of what made Gideon one of the LORD's judges... still looking.

28 posted on 02/03/2008 7:03:01 AM PST by Just mythoughts (Isa.3:4 And I will give children to be their princes, and babes shall rule over them.)
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If this country has no option but to flounder in the abyss of liberal theology, there is no sense in having a RINO at the helm to have the blame assigned to Republicans.

Vote for Romney while there is still time to avoid a ‘liberals only’ choice!


30 posted on 02/03/2008 7:06:22 AM PST by G Larry (HILLARY CARE = DYING IN LINE!)
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To: callisto

Now that Hunter, Tancredo and Thompson are out, I’ve gladly thrown my support to Ron Paul, by far the most Constitutionally faithful man in the race.


48 posted on 02/03/2008 7:30:24 AM PST by ovrtaxt (No Rudy McRombee for me! I voted for Ron Paul. The GOP can curl up and die.)
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I think those who are unwilling to make compromises to keep their ideological principles pure should consider two things:

1.) Have you personally worked with a group to advance a candidate that you thought should be elected? Or did you just leave it to the the RNC to get candidates on the various tickets? Because if you left it to someone else to deliver a candidate with worthy conservative credentials for your vote, then you have already compromised. As Americans, we are all stuck in this boat now because too many of us did leave the selection to others.

2.) How do the titles President Obama or President Clinton sound to you? If those combinations of words sound like a reasonable price to pay to maintain the purity of your ideological principles, then you are prepared. If you write in a vote, vote for a third party, or simply don’t vote, then you cannot complain about a President Obama or a President Clinton. There is a price to pay for purity, and to dismiss out of hand the practical considerations for the pure ideological considerations is a flawed approach.

Note that the supposedly unbiased media has for years referred to McCain as a “Rock Ribbed Maverick” or some other such trite phrase. They reserve those types of positive (in their world) descriptions for foolish Republicans who serve liberal purposes, such as former Senator Bob Packwood. Packwood was a Republican who liberals utilized as a cudgel against conservatives. He was a tool, his primary use was as an example of a conservative who supported abortion rights. As soon as they got a liberal like Clinton in the Whitehouse, they turned on Packwood and destroyed him simply because they didn’t need him anymore.

The point is, when the election is over, and the White House is in the hands of of the Democrat party, they won’t have much use for McCain. They are talking him up and promoting his candidacy, because they know that he is a poison pill for the Republicans, much more so than Bob Dole ever was. They know he doesn’t have a prayer of winning the White House any more than Bob Dole did, and sadly, any more than Duncan Hunter (my candidate) ever did of winning the nomination. Any conservative with half a brain should sit up and wonder why the New York Times would endorse any candidate on the Republican side for anything, even if it is simply to say they need to choose someone so it appears they are not being biased.

I have heard it said that the difference between Conservatism and Liberalism is that Conservatism deals with the art of what is possible, while Liberalism deals with the art of what can be fantasized.

As conservatives, we need to grow up and deal with the real world. Reagan isn’t coming back, and we have allowed ourselves to end up in this spot for this election. Perhaps we can get off of our collective asses and change it next election cycle, but it is NOT going to happen for this one. We have what we have, and any fantasy we entertain about some conservative knight in shining armor who is going to jump in at the last minute or be drafted at the convention or be written in is simply that, pure fantasy.

I have decided to throw my vote behind Romney. I think he has the best chance of winning in November, and his business background is real, not made up. He had made a real living running a business, making business decisions and cutting paychecks, which sets him apart from any of the other candidates who are all professional politicians, and who have never done a thing to make real money apart from working in government to increase their exposure to the perks and graft that can come to those who desire that road in public life.

Romney isn’t perfect, but neither is he the evil man people are making him out to be. The same can be said for Ronald Reagan...he wasn’t the saint we all make him out to be, but neither was he the evil man liberals and his other enemies painted him as.

Likewise, I don’t think McCain is the evil, unstable maniac people are painting him as. Is he a flawed candidate? Obviously, and in my mind, seriously. This is not necessarily a reflection on the personal qualities of McCain. I honor his service as I honor that of his father and grandfather. McCain was my Commanding Officer for a period of several months back in the mid-Seventies, so unlike many Americans, I actually have some personal experience and connection with the man. He was completely unremarkable in that role, not surprising for someone who had only been out of the POW camp for three years at that point. But the various underhanded attacks I see on his service and conduct as a POW simply sicken me. He was, by all accounts, a mediocre flier and a less than sterling Naval Officer. But he did serve.

He isn’t my kind of person, and he doesn’t subscribe to my values. I was saddened and sickened to hear his criticisms of the Swift Boat Veterans, men who I feel displayed the highest form of patriotism and love of country by saving us from having to say the words President Kerry. I thought that was a grave and serious mistake he made, to stand by and support a fellow Senator in that odd senatorial code of comradeship they observe between Senators, when he should have sided with the Swift Boat Vets.

He was one of the Keating Five and was one of the prime authors of McCain-Feingold, probably the most open attack on the First Amendment in my lifetime. He is not a team player, a characteristic I value highly (when team play is not contraindicated) and seems on a personal level, very similar to Howard Dean.

But as a candidate for President and presented with a choice between him and Obama/Clinton, I will hold my nose and pull the lever for McCain. Despite all his faults and similarities with both Clinton and Obama on various issues, he does differ dramatically in at least one, and for me, key area: He genuinely is a friend of the military.

Obama and Clinton view the subjects of military personnel, military readiness or status and military force as political issues, useful and worthy only with respect to how many votes they gain or lose on the basis of how a given issue is handled. They clearly have contempt for the military, its mission and its people, and view it as a useless impediment to money they could put into social programs. For all his faults, I do not think McCain is in the same league as them. It is the main reason I still support President Bush, even with his stance on immigration and all the other things he could have done better. President Bush genuinely understands the role and importance of the military independent of politics, and has apparent respect for those people who serve and have served. As I think McCain does.

For this reason, and ONLY this reason if there are no others, I will vote for McCain if he is the nominee. I am going to give my money and support to Romney, but if it turns out to be McCain, I will vote for him for the reasons described above.

People on Free Republic are tearing each other apart, as conservatives in similar forums around this country are doing the same. I have a rule of thumb that I follow, and it is right a large part of the time: “If Liberals are for something, then I am going to be against it.” The fact that Liberals are ecstatic about this kind of backbiting that is going on in the conservative movement only reinforces to me that we need to find a way around it.

Sitting out the election, voting third party, writing in a vote or voting McCain are all things liberals want us to do. We should do the opposite.

(Note: I would appreciate it if people didn’t take this personally. I have found that people are so polarized about this issue that sarcasm and personal attacks seem to be the only way some people can deal with it. THIS IS SIMPLY MY OPINION. I respect your opinion, even if I disagree with it, IT IS YOURS. Let’s try to stay on an even keel. The POW’s at the Hanoi Hilton had an expression that they used: “Keep a Steady Strain”. It is a nautical term, and roughly means, don’t get too high, and don’t get too low. We need to observe that here as well.)


70 posted on 02/03/2008 7:58:58 AM PST by rlmorel (Liberals: If the Truth would help them, they would use it.)
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McCain already tried to sell our country out by offering Amnesty. He will never get my vote.


75 posted on 02/03/2008 8:04:25 AM PST by Haddit (A Hunter Conservative)
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93 posted on 02/03/2008 8:30:44 AM PST by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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