NYP: WHAT REALLY HAPPENED ON FLIGHT 800?-- NATIONAL GEO AND THE LI MYSTERY

New York Post ^ | January 29, 2008 | Linda Stasi

[OESY]

...Tonight's "The Final Report: Investigation of TWA Flight 800" on National Geographic Channel presents a brilliant, well-researched look into what the investigators found - and what they didn't find.

The show details the animosity that existed from day one between the NTSB and the FBI.

The NTSB is usually the final word in all air crashes. But because a number of eyewitnesses on the ground saw streaks flying towards the aircraft right before it exploded, and air traffic controllers reporting blips around the aircraft, the FBI came in and took over the investigation, calling it a possible crime.

There were immediately three prevailing theories. One was friendly fire. The US Navy runs weapons training exercises in a 300-mile-wide swath near the flight path.

The second held that it could have been terrorists with ground-to-air missiles.

The third was that there had been a bomb on board.

The producers interview most of the players in the investigation including eyewitnesses; Robert Francis, the former chairman of the NTSB who was not happy to have the FBI crawling over his investigation; James Kallstrom of the FBI, who knew that 747s just don't randomly blow up; Leon Panetta, then-White House Chief of Staff; as well as cops who dove for the wreckage, like Vincente Termine.

After this show, you may trust the government even less than you do now. Or you may think they are as honest as they possibly could be in simply admitting that they just don't know.

Whatever you conclude, you won't conclude that National Geographic didn't do a very thorough job. Great reporting.

[Iron Munro]

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"One of the most disturbing facts revealed is the true cause of the crash of TWA Flight 800 in 1996 which killed 230 people. The evidence linking Al Qaeda member Ramzi Yousef (architect of the 1993 World Trade Center bombing) to the crash of Flight 800 appears indisputable. So, to me, the key question here is: why hasn't the American public been told that Al Qaeda blew up a U.S. airliner in 1996, killing 230 people? If we had known that, surely airline security would have been stepped up considerably in 1996 -- not in 2001?

I have stated that members of the Justice Department covered up the evidence linking al Qaeda to the crash of TWA #800 and Dietrich Snell was a party to that cover up.

Go to http://www.peterlance.com and click #FBI #302’s. Then click on the one for 3/7/96 and you’ll find an internal FBI memo showing that Snell and two other senior Department of Justice officials (Valerie Caproni, chief of the criminal division for the EDNY (Eastern District of New York) and Patrick Fitzgerald, head of terrorism and organized crime in the SDNY (Southern District of New York) knew of the intelligence coming from Yousef, in the spring of 1996.

Their source was Gregory Scarpa, Jr. a Mafia informant at the MCC (federal jail) in Lower Manhattan. Yousef passed Scarpa Jr. notes through a hole in the wall between their cells. In addition to intricate bomb schematics identical to the device Yousef used in the PAL #434 “wet test,” and other details only Yousef could know, the notes offered the high explosive RDX as an alternative to nitro glycerin in the manufacture of one of the “bomb triggers.”

These #302’s repeatedly warn that Yousef was going to get his “people” to put a bomb on a plane to get a mistrial in the Bojinka case. As it turned out, TWA 800 went down on July 17, 1996, the eve of the most damning evidence versus Yousef being admitted at trial; namely Murad’s confession to Colonel Mendoza.

Further, in the weeks that followed, the FBI found RDX, PETN and nitroglycerine in the area of the center fuel tank between rows 17-25 in the plane’s wreckage dredged from Long Island Sound. This was the precise area where Yousef planned to plant devices for Bojinka following his PAL “wet test."big>

From: http://www.readersread.com/features/peterlance.htm

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[HardStarboard]

>>>In addition, there was normally an El-Al flight to Israel that left at that time, but it had been delayed that evening and the TWA flight had taken its place in the line.<<<

I have never heard this. Seems to me, if true, that should have been a salient fact in the investigation!

Do you have a source for this?? Thanks

[MrLee]

Somebody must have a tape of that broadcast somewhere.

[Young Werther]

Yup! Bill Clintoon was running for President and covered up this terrorist attack. Within days of 911 George Steponallofus and Joh fnn (Traitor), Kerry were on Sunday Talk shows and said that the 911 terror attacks were like the TWA 800 shoot down.

I wonder if the documentary will mention that the autopsy xrays of the victims were classified! The presence of shrapnel in the bodies would prove or disprove the detonation of a bomb or ground to air missile!!!

You could read more at the web site of the air traffic accident investigator that was more thorough and honest than the NTSB which was browbeat by The Clowntoon FBI!

TWA800

[nikos1121]

If it was a terrorist attack why didn’t they take claim of it?

[Safetgiver]

I think it was a shoulder fired missile, and it was covered up in the interest of national security..... In the interest of Clinton, I think you mean.

[ml/nj]

The people who claim a cover up, do so because they dislike Clinton.

Please! I admit I dislike (detest, really) the Clintons. But I've said that Ronald Reagan would have done the same thing as Clinton did. The country just isn't ready to hear that its Navy shot down a 747 full of people.

You want evidence? Eyewitness reports are evidence. Debris field maps are evidence. Whatever James Sanders presented was evidence. ATC radar is evidence. The activation of the Military Warning Area is evidence. Usw.

But you don't want to see, so nothing happened.

ML/NJ

[discostu]

One thing to keep in mind, and I’m not saying it was an attack just pointing out possibilities, is that after Somalia Clinton developed a serious case of bodybagphobia. Notice that while he did many military interventions during his presidency most of them were bombings and other plane/ missile oriented missions, stuff that’s low risk for the US military and when something bad does happen it usually leaves no body. There’s no way Clinton was going to get into a real war after the Blackhawk Down situation, he was afraid of the bad press that comes with bodybags.

[mitchbert]

Some years ago I was watching This Week on Sunday morning. George Stephanopolus was on. Don’t remember the topic but a discussion of the Situation Room at the WH and it’s uses came up. Stephie described some of his meetings in there and said, and this is a quote, “We were in there when TWA800 was shot down.” George Will looked like he was going to have a heart attack. They cut to a commercial virtually immediately and went to a different topic upon return. I’ll never forget that. I’ve kind of leaned towards friendly fire since then.

[HardStarboard]

I abolutely think your right on this one! See my post #38.

Interesting that the CIA was dogging him. We now know it was Clinton's CIA, and unfortunately, it still is!

[mitchbert]

See my post 49

[bobsatwork]

Show me the science! - You choose a lonely path. Regarding all those witnesses, to the best of my knowledge, NOT ONE reported, on the same night of the incident, anything vaguely resembling "I just saw a missile take out an airliner". Certainly no news outlet that I watched that night said "witnesses tell ABCCBSNBC that a missile rose from the ocean..." etc. When the accident happened there were NO witnesses certain of a missile. Curiously, days later they became convinced.

[Age of Reason]

it was covered up in the interest of national security

More likely it was covered up because it would hurt Clinton's mideast peace negotiations.

If the government admitted it was a terror missle, then Clinton would have had to retaliate, which would make it harder for him to broker peace between Israel and the Arabs.

Perfect explanation.

Probably the same reason that Egyptian pilot commited "suicide" by diving his airline plane into the ocean off New England around the same time, taking everybody onboard with him.

[Safetgiver]

If it was a terrorist attack why didn’t they take claim of it?
... Maybe they did, how would we know?

[Apercu]

Given the Clinton’s proclivity for corruption it is reasonable to assume the cover up of an attack. There are too many eye witness accounts that contradict the exploding center fuel tank theory.Ask Sandy Burglar.

[Cicero]

National Geographic has turned into a left wing agitprop magazine, just like most of the rest of them. Permit me to doubt that they will come up with anything resembling the truth.

Not only did many witnesses see missiles approach the plane, several of those witnesses were military pilots who had fought in vietnam.

And one of those pilot witnesses further testified that he had seen plenty of ordnance explosions and fuel explosions, and that what he saw that day was an ordnance explosion, because it was brilliant white, not yellow-orange.

Clinton covered up a terrorist attack because he didn’t want to deal with the terrorists.

[Designer]

"Maybe I’m dense, but I just don’t get why anyone would cover up an attack. What would be the point of that?"

To avoid panic in the general public. Such panic would mean the virtural end to commercial air transportation, a vital national interest.

"If it were an attack wouldn’t there be a strong probability that the perps would do it again, seeing how easy it was and successful they were at carrying it out and avoiding capture?"

Precisely. Very few American travelers would take the risk in the immediate aftermath.

[a real Sheila]

Either that or one fired from a boat...
but yes, covered up in the interest of national security, or in the interest of keeping the economy good and the public dumb and happy under the Clintons.
I DO believe that is what happened.
Couldn’t have the airlines suffering and the economy taking a dive under Clinton’s watch, doncha know.

[texas_mrs]

http://www.flight800.org/res1.html

After noticing a red residue on several (rows 17-19) passenger seats within the rows in which the explosives PETN and RDX were detected (rows 15-25), lead TWA Investigator and Head Pilot Terrel Stacey brought the residue to the attention of FBI investigators. Weeks later, the FBI refused to share its laboratory results on the residue, citing evidence in a criminal investigation, prompting Stacey to remove samples of this residue, giving them to James Sanders (author/journalist) who in turn had the residue tested at West Coast Analytical Services (WCAS) in Sante Fe Springs, CA. The results of this test showed high concentrations of elements used in missile fuel and pyrotechnics. The publication of these results in the Press Enterprise newspaper of Riverside, California received national press coverage, prompting the FBI to make a series of public statements concerning the residue and their dissatisfaction with Stacey's and Sanders' actions.

[American_Centurion]

I saw that video clip as well. It was taken during some kind of get together on an outside deck. As soon as I saw it I told my wife it liiked almost exactly like the patriot missiles I had seen in Saudi Arabia during the first gulf war.

I have searched and searched and have NEVER seen that video again since then.

I’ve been convinced since that moment it was a missile. I KNOW what I saw and I KNOW there has to be a coverup for that video to be gone now.