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To: Stat-boy

I’ve given up voting for someone I like. I detest all those who are left.

So I’m going with who can beat Hillary.

John McCain.

We are not going to get a conservative President this year. Then again, we don’t have one now.


6 posted on 01/25/2008 10:08:01 AM PST by JRochelle (John Thune in 2012.)
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To: JRochelle

Im starting to come to the same conclusion. I have another week to see how fla shakes things up..


32 posted on 01/25/2008 10:23:17 AM PST by N3WBI3 (Ah, arrogance and stupidity all in the same package. How efficient of you. -- Londo Mollari)
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To: JRochelle

my thinking exactly.


48 posted on 01/25/2008 10:33:27 AM PST by lmc12
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To: JRochelle

That is a choice. I prefer a candidate whose STATED positions are in tune with my own, over a candidate whose STATED positions are to destroy our country.

If my candidate does nothing but keep his promises, I win and the country wins.

If your candidate does nothing but keep his promises, our country loses. You have to pray that your candidate is lying to you, or is stopped by a democratic congress.

Otherwise Guantanamo is closed and terrorists are in our states, with access to classified information, and full rights to our court system.

Our intelligence gathering is thwarted by a strict policy against effective interrogation techniques, and a too-close strutiny of wiretapping and other monitoring techniques.

Our hard-earned tax dollars are spent on “fixing” Global Warming, mostly by destroying what is left of our manufacturing base and costing jobs.

Our free-speech rights are endangered as McCain not only pushes the executive to more completely enforce M/F (including pushing it against bloggers and web sites like FR), and then pushing for NEW legislation to “fix” the new loopholes.

Our chance at good judges is compromised, as John McCain is part of the “good old boy” Senate network, and is likely to give the leadership of the senate (democrats) an integral role in picking judges. Probably he’ll take a list and let them winnow it down for him. No Alito, no Roberts, is likely to get RAMMED DOWN THE THROATS of the democratic Senate by a guy who started the Gang of 14 to stop the president from “interfering” in the supreme rights of the Senate to filibuster his nominees.

I have to weigh the enormity of the sacrifice to conservative principles, versus the relative chances of getting Mitt Romney elected vs getting John McCain elected. If I was absolutely positive that John McCain would get elected (and wouldn’t have Huckabee as his VP), I MIGHT give up my principles for him, just to not take the chance on Hillary.

But in fact, I’m actually believing Romney is MORE electable than McCain, and worse, am pretty sure McCain can NOT in the end win election. So I’d be fighting a losing cause having given up my principles.

Sorry. I understand your reasoning, and know how important it is to stop Hillary. But when we do stop her, it would be nice if we’d actually have something to show for it.

McCain could end up listening to his good friend Joe Leiberman, and become even MORE liberal as President, when he has no need to pander to his constituents. Old people sometimes get very liberal as they near death and worry more about likeability and legacy than adherance to principle.

So I disagree with your course of action.


50 posted on 01/25/2008 10:35:06 AM PST by CharlesWayneCT
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To: JRochelle
I’ve given up voting for someone I like. I detest all those who are left. So I’m going with who can beat Hillary. John McCain. We are not going to get a conservative President this year. Then again, we don’t have one now.

I'm in your boat and have pretty much settled on (yuck) McCain for the same reason. I pray he picks a half-decent running mate.
53 posted on 01/25/2008 10:37:10 AM PST by Antoninus ("Make all the promises you have to." -Mitt Romney)
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To: JRochelle
We are not going to get a conservative President this year

...and never will as long as we keep nominating and supporting RINO's

138 posted on 01/25/2008 11:56:52 AM PST by paul51 (11 September 2001 - Never forget)
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To: JRochelle

McCain can’t beat Hillary. Romney can.

I swear, FR in its current state wouldn’t support Governor Reagan in his bid for the White House.


145 posted on 01/25/2008 12:10:24 PM PST by Terpfen (It's your fault, not Pelosi's.)
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To: JRochelle

Hope you’re not expecting McCain to help you keep your guns.

http://gunowners.org/pres08/mccain.htm


150 posted on 01/25/2008 12:25:09 PM PST by matthew fuller (John Bolton/ Newt Gingrich 2008)
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To: JRochelle

“I’ve given up voting for someone I like. I detest all those who are left. So I’m going with who can beat Hillary.
John McCain.
We are not going to get a conservative President this year. Then again, we don’t have one now.”

I believe McCain is one whom Hillary CAN BEAT! Why do you think the main stream meedia is pushing McCain and earlier Huckabee? Because they KNOW either McCain or Huckabee would be the easiest for Hillary to beat. They have tons of bad press to bring out on McCain should he win the nomination. My prayer now it that McCain is stopped here in Florida so I am voting for Romney.


240 posted on 01/25/2008 5:09:25 PM PST by seekthetruth
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To: JRochelle

John McCain can’t beat Hillary, he is Hillary without the skirt.

We’d be better off with the very inept Hillary than the intense globalist McCain, candidate from hell.


253 posted on 01/25/2008 8:29:37 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Turning the general election into a second Democrat primary is not a winning strategy.)
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To: JRochelle
I’m going with who can beat Hillary.

So, does this mean that if subsequent events show that John McCain is not the best man to beat Hillary, then you will shift and vote for whomever that turns out to be?

274 posted on 01/26/2008 12:28:42 AM PST by patriciaruth (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1562436/posts)
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To: JRochelle

Even if Romney isn’t the staunchest 2nd Amendment advocate out there, he is still no worse than McCain on the issue, indeed he is better, and above all, McCain’s pro-amnesty position I believe must be the deciding deal-breaking factor.
If McCain is the GOP nominee, I will vote for him.
Huckabee is the only one I would not vote for, though it doesn’t look like there is any threat of that.

However, Romney is the best option given the poverty of choices.
Don’t blame the candidates who are running, though.
Blame the ones who are not.
And blame all the idiots who didn’t vote for Fred Thompson.


289 posted on 01/26/2008 7:58:21 AM PST by counterpunch (Mike Huckabee — The Religious Wrong)
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To: JRochelle

McCain wants more amnesty for illegals, Julie-Annie wants to give them welfare and Hickabee wants to give both.

Romney is the last option left. The rest can go to hell...

Standing up on the national stage next to a short, fat old hag, the last thing the Republicans need is a weak, frail old man.

Romney is a vibrant, healthy man and like it or not, in our image driven society, it is solely that image that will elect him.


290 posted on 01/26/2008 8:03:48 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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