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Deal Reached on Tax Rebates for Stimulus
breitbart.com ^ | 1/24/2008 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/24/2008 7:22:15 AM PST by AbeKrieger

WASHINGTON (AP) - Democratic and Republican congressional leaders reached a tentative deal Thursday on tax rebates of $300 to $1,200 per family and business tax cuts to jolt the slumping economy. Congressional officials close to the negotiations said House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Republican Leader John Boehner of Ohio reached agreement in principle in a telephone call Thursday morning.

The officials, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the two wanted key members of their parties to sign off on the accord before any announcement.

The accord came as the White House said Thursday an agreement was imminent.

Pelosi, D-Calif., agreed to drop increases in food stamp and unemployment benefits during a Wednesday meeting in exchange for gaining rebates of at least $300 for almost everyone earning a paycheck, including low-income earners who make too little to pay income taxes.

Families with children would receive an additional $300 per child, subject to an overall cap of perhaps $1,200, according to a senior House aide who outlined the deal on condition of anonymity in advance of formal adoption of the whole package. Rebates would go to people earning below a certain income cap, likely individuals earning $75,000 or less and couples with incomes of $150,000 or less.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government
KEYWORDS: rebate; rebates; recession; stimulus; tax
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To: Right Cal Gal
So...let me get this straight. If I’m single and make over $75,000 a year, I DO NOT get a rebate, but people who pay absolutely NO taxes get $300? Tell me - what exactly are they getting a rebate FROM??

Hush up and get back to work!

141 posted on 01/24/2008 12:35:46 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo
Useless..... Make the tax cuts permanent.

That has nothing to do with this. This is a vote-getting campaign expense. It has nothing to do with tax cuts, other than the word 'tax.'

142 posted on 01/24/2008 12:38:18 PM PST by sam_paine (X .................................)
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To: Katlyn

“I am sick.”

Here ya go, honey [passes the Pepto] I’ve been guzzling this since I first read this crap early in the a.m.


143 posted on 01/24/2008 12:49:29 PM PST by Right Cal Gal (Remember Billy Dale!!!)
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To: abigailsmybaby
The first handgun I ever fired was a single action Ruger Blackhawk in 44 magnum. I was hooked on big bore revolvers. The first semi-auto I fired was a Ruger 9mm at an indoor range. It felt a bit "blocky" and rough on the trigger. The 9mm Glock was smoother by comparison. The 1911 45Auto was more my style. That was my first purchased handgun.

I find the Ruger MKII pistol in .22LR to be a fine means of developing good marksmanship skills on a budget. My favorite recreational center fire handgun is the 4" S&W 686+ with hand-loaded 38SPL optimized for target shooting. No brass to chase. Ditto for the MKII. The brass is a throw away.

A center fire semi-auto requires a firm grip. Limp wristing is the common mistake of a new shooter. When my wife first started, she could get any semi-auto center fire pistol to "stove pipe". After finishing a personal defense class, her shooting skills were nicely honed. She handles everything from .22LR pistols, .454 Casull revolvers and even my T/C Encore with a .308 150 gr hunting round.

Practice often to build and maintain your skills.

144 posted on 01/24/2008 12:49:47 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: dinoparty
Is the cap based on gross income or adjusted gross?

It makes no difference in my case. Either would be above the cutoff. I had a few thoughts around lunch time. Rather than crabbing about not being on the gravy train to get a $300 check, I should be thinking about a reasonable business proposal to collect a bunch of them from the recipients. When life hands you lemons, make lemonade.

145 posted on 01/24/2008 12:52:48 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: af_vet_rr
"the Dems and Republicans think people can be bought off for $300 apiece."

they're right, you know.

146 posted on 01/24/2008 12:59:44 PM PST by cherry
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To: Myrddin

I have a lot to learn about firearms. The one I bought is a Kahr. I read several reviews of it and learned that it’s a pretty nice gun for a beginner. And it’s small so it fits my hand very well. I’d like to own a S&W someday.


147 posted on 01/24/2008 1:37:39 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

“For what it’s worth, my wife and I currently make a bit more than that, and have one child. In northeastern Massachusetts, this places us solidly in the middle class, not in the “upper middle class” by any stretch of the imagination.”

I’m curious, and feel free to ‘private reply’ if you’re more comfortable, what you feel is the difference between ‘middle class’ and ‘upper middle class’. To be honest, I’m not sure I know myself...


148 posted on 01/24/2008 2:50:43 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: Myrddin

“Practice often to build and maintain your skills.”

The one thing I’ll add to Myrddin’s advice is to not neglect ear protection. Ear damage is usually permanent, and is almost always not a fun thing. Tinnitus in particular is something to watch out for as a consequence of shooting or being around gunfire, ESPECIALLY in indoor ranges. It manifests as a high-pitched background noise. It’s often severe enough to interfere with sleep.

If you’re planning on shooting often, budget quite a bit of money (probably > $500) for modern ear protection. Your ears are worth much more than a firearm, pay at least what you would for a gun. Remember that some of the shock wave will be transmitted through your bone structure regardless.


149 posted on 01/24/2008 2:58:01 PM PST by PreciousLiberty
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To: abigailsmybaby; PreciousLiberty
My wife had a Kahr for a brief time. It's the only firearm that we have ever purchased (used) and traded for something else. It was too small for my hands and neither of us could shoot it accurately. The problem may have been unique to that particular firearm.

Eye and ear protection are very important. The 32 dB foam ear plugs work well, but there is some additional value in the variety that cover your ears. It limits bone conduction AND it protects your ears from flying bits of lead. I've had a couple trips to the range where I just used the foam plugs and got nailed on the ear with a piece of flying lead. That stinging feeling coupled with a wet, sticky feel on your ear is a good clue that something's not right. A long sleeve shirt with a high, closed collar will keep hot brass from burning your arms or going down your shirt. A ballcap with a bill will keep the brass from rolling down your forehead and getting behind your shooting glasses. Lessons learned from many hours on the range.

If you shoot metal spinners, make sure they are the correct weight for the caliber you are shooting. Also, make sure they are at least out as far as the minimum range specified by the supplier. A ricochet back onto the firing line is unwelcome and dangerous. Just because you're doing things right doesn't mean the person next to you is playing safe. Always wear the hearing and eye protection when on or near the firing line.

150 posted on 01/24/2008 3:29:41 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: sam_paine

I apologize if you didn’t understand what I wrote.


151 posted on 01/24/2008 3:33:06 PM PST by ButThreeLeftsDo (Tracking The "Flyin' Imams" since 11/20/06)
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To: Myrddin

It is very small. The fella with us, a friend and co-worker of my son’s, couldn’t shoot it. His finger was too big for the trigger.

I found out the hard way about wearing a cap. Brass lodged between my head and ear piece on my glasses....and it was HOT.That was something I hadn’t thought about until that happened.

Thanks for all the advice. I’ll be better prepared the next time.


152 posted on 01/24/2008 4:36:43 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: codercpc
I ain't poor, but thats what I plan to spend mine on (maybe a little gambling too!), might as well have fun. j/k

You know it! 

153 posted on 01/24/2008 4:51:43 PM PST by SheLion (I love Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Axenolith
If it's what you think of politicians then you need to switch the signs. If it's how they think of us, it's spot on...

They dump on us.  What's to switch???

154 posted on 01/24/2008 4:54:52 PM PST by SheLion (I love Fred Thompson!!!)
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To: Right Cal Gal
Have to find ways to remind them.

Old story, but I sent link to Coal-Gate to Obama.

155 posted on 01/24/2008 7:54:36 PM PST by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, but DemocRATs believe every day is April 15th. - Reagan)
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To: abigailsmybaby
Good fit to the hand is important for a handgun. It should fit comfortably in your hand and the first joint of your index finger should be able to rest comfortably on the trigger with the stock centered in the web between thumb and index finger. My wife couldn't do that with my N frame S&W 629 revolver. It kept nicking skin off the joint at the base of her thumb. A L frame S&W revolver is a perfect fit for her hand. I ran into the opposite problem with the J frame S&W 640. My hand is slightly too large, so the skin between the first and second joints of my index finger gets pinched when I pull the trigger.

I rented a wide variety of pistols and revolvers before I committed to make a purchase. In the S&W revolver line, I can comfortably shoot L frame, N frame and X frame revolvers with one hand without much problem. The J frame is a finger pincher for me.

156 posted on 01/24/2008 8:13:50 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: DM1
“I thought it was $800 too. What the hell happened????”

Someone else said "The Dems happened."  ~sigh

157 posted on 01/24/2008 8:39:47 PM PST by SheLion (Fred????????? Why??????????)
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To: Myrddin

You rented handguns before you bought?!?! You surely don’t live in California. I can’t imagine being able to rent them out here.


158 posted on 01/24/2008 8:53:20 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: SheLion

I was just listening to KFI and they are reporting that it’s $600/person, $1200/married couple, and $300/kid.


159 posted on 01/24/2008 8:54:55 PM PST by abigailsmybaby (I was born with nothing. So far I have most of it left.)
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To: abigailsmybaby
I was just listening to KFI and they are reporting that it’s $600/person, $1200/married couple, and $300/kid.

That sounds better. Thank you!!!!

160 posted on 01/24/2008 9:02:30 PM PST by SheLion (Fred????????? Why??????????)
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